that's syndicated columnist mark shields and "washington post" columnist michael gerson.id brooks is off tonight. >> so gentlemen, are we going to start with the jobs numbers. but mark, hearing that story about what these military veterans face, that's tough. >> yeah, it is, judy. it seems every politician speech and corporate chief and public official begins with honoring the great service and courage of our men and women in uniform. it would be great to see a competition among american employers to employ veteranses who have come back and who have made that kind of a commitment. i mean the unemployment rate among veterans is unacceptable. and it is really ungrateful. >> woodruff: it's been true in other wars but it seems particularly rough right now, doesn't it. >> i agree with that, combined with a terrible economy. the question is whether employers want to take risks on, and the answer here is they should take risks on our veterans. you know, they do have challenges. they do have problems. they have been participating in very difficult wars. but they are owed a lot. a