. >> dickerson: michael gerson, as michael duffy was saying, presidents get in fights with their cia or with their intelligence communities -- >> they will lose. i can't think of an instance where the cia did not win. through leaks and other things. i mean, that is the history of this. but even more importantly,, you know, we face such a variety of threats right now, whether china in the south china stay or if it is north korea nukes or it is threats for russia to the balance tick states. we need a good relationship between the intelligence community and the president, and the people i talk to in the intelligence community about this were most ad hominem nature of this attack, 3 felt, i feel like, you know, he is attacking little marco or lying ted, okay? that's the way he is treating his intelligence community. >> and, you know, i think this is also really interesting moment for domestic politics, donald trump is really putting his own party in an impossible position. either they go against their incoming 43 who has shown a propensity as you point out for these ad hominem attacks or

[applause] >> please welcome the human rights and security nexus panel, moderated by michael gerson, columnist for "the washington post." michael: good morning. i'm honored to be with you at this forum on freedom in north korea, and to be with this distinguished panel area -- distinguished panel. there is a portion of president's second inaugural address that leads, we are led a common sense to one conclusion. the survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. the best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world. america's vital interests and deepest beliefs are now one. north korea is really the test , and could beion its demonstration under the right circumstances. in theedom really grow rocky soil of north korea? but what long-term solutions to the problems of a peninsula can even exist without that freedom? some of the questions we are going to explore today. by way of background, historically there have been two groups of north korea watchers, those that focus more on human rights, and those who focus mo

applause] [applause] >> please welcome the human rights and security nexus panel moderated by michael gerson, columnist for the "washington post." >> good morning. i'm really honored to be with you at this for my freedom in north korea and to be with these distinguished panelists. there is a portion of president bushes second and not euro address. we are led by events and common sense to one conclusion, the survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. the best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world. america's vital interests and deepest beliefs are now one. north korea is really the test of this assertion. and could be its demonstration under the right circumstances. can freedom really grow in the rocky salted soil of our korea? but what the long-term solutions to the problems of the peninsula and even exist without that freedom? these are some of the questions on the floor today. by way of background, historically there have been two groups of north korea watchers, those that focus more on human rights and t

. >> rose: michael gerson, a columnist for "the washington post," said talking about globalization and the rise of populism and all of that, said, "the davo said in globalized elite, are leading participants in the economic system with the global chain, freely moving capital and rapid innovation that during the past 20 years has taken a billion people out of extreme poverty around the world. this is arguably the greatest humanitarian achievement in history." without debating "the greatest, that's a remarkable achievement. >> certainly. >> rose: and i come back to it, what's necessary to make sure that government, n.g.o.s, business, with all the resources, with all the opportunities, with all the human capital that businesses have, the best and brightest, in many cases, how do you employ it along lines of morality and profit? >> the statement you just quoted of business and having lifted a lot of people out of poverty goes on to say, if we quoted from the same source, goes on to say, wh while it lifts so many t of poverty, it also increases inequality. so it lifts out of quality but als

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