is the president of the technology therapy group, a group focused on digital marketing, and michael goldberg is a visiting assistant professor of design and innovation at case western university in cleveland. thanks so much for being here. so great to see you guys. >> thank you, jj. >> great to be here. >> let's get to the first question. it is all about the search for capital. >> as entrepreneurs, we're constantly on the hunt for funding. but, what is the best way to identify or the best time to walk away from an investment? >> michael, i think that's a really interesting question, right? oftentimes, when you're looking for funding, you're so desperate, you know, people think they should just take anything. that is not the -- that's not the case. >> absolutely, jj. it's a great question. and i think the first question that an entrepreneur needs to ask is, do you want to bootstrap it, and basically try to grow the business a little bit more slowly through the revenue of the company, and maybe not take money from an outside investor, so that's the first question you ask, do you take it or not

jennifer is the president of the technology therapy group, a group focused on digital marketing and michael goldberg a visiting assistant of design at university of cleveland. thanks for being here. so great to see you guys. >> thank you, j.j. >> great to be here. >> first question. all about the search for capital. >> as entrepreneurs, we're confaco constantly on the hunt for funding. when is the best time to walk away from an invest snment. >> michael, an interesting question. oftentimes when you're looking for funding you're so desperate. people think they should just take anything. that's not the case. >> absolutely, j.j. it's a great question and i think the first question an optripner needs to ask, do you want to boot strap it and try to grow the business more slowly and maybe not money from an outside investor. that's the first question you ask. do you take it or not? i think for the person who asked the question, the presumption probably looking for money. might want to grow more quickly. then building that deep network starting with family and friends first because more accessible people an

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michael brown were white this would have gone down exactly the same way? >> yes. >> no question? had>> no question. >> fox news contributor bernie goldbergys some media outlets are trying to turn michael brown into a civil rights hero and that's wrong. >> more than a few journalists especially on television are trying to turn this into a civil rights story. you know what? ferguson missouri is not alabama. 2014 is not 1965 and michael brown is not emmit till or any other black person shot by a white big got. michael brown stole stuff sfr from a convenience store and roughed up the owner who was half his size. michael brown thought he would get away with roughing up a cop. he brought about his own demise. a tragedy when any 18-year-old is killed especially for the parents. we certainly sympathize with that. michael brown was the bad guy in this case and please, america, let's not turn this kid into some kind of civil rights martyr because that he is not. >> a pair of thieves not the brightest diamonds. who men raised after ripping off a jewelry store in paris. he hopped on a scooter trying to get away. he stormed on to a hair salon trying

michael brown himself. is it okay to rough up a police officer?" bernie goldberg just fulfilled your wish.ecause the facts were not known until last night, fair-minded people refrained from demonizing the late mr. brown. and because he did lose his life, coverage of him should be restrained out of respect for his family. that being said, all the facts need to be stated. vincent joy of boca raton, florida "as far as waters at the harvard/yale game, the late bill buckley once said i'd rather be governed by first 3,000 names in the boston phone book than by 3,000 harvard professors." yeah, but buckley was a yale man, vince, come on. sal, bell air, maryland "as a korean war vet i think killing patton should be mandatory reading in all high schools. the book's lesson is freedom is not free." some schools are using killing lincoln, killing kennedy and killing jesus. we also have children's books for elementary school kids for all of those. and a kids book for batton is on the way, it will be out early 2015. if you want me to sign any of my books for christmas gifts, please get the orders in now

michael brown himself. is it okay to rough up a police officer?" bernie goldberg just fulfilled your wish. facts were not known until last night, fair-minded people refrained from demonizing the late mr. brown. and because he did lose his life, coverage of him should be restrained out of respect for his family. that being said, all the facts need to be stated. vincent joy of boca raton, florida "as far as waters at the harvard/yale game, the late bill buckley once said i'd rather be governed by first 3,000 names in the boston phone book than by 3,000 harvard professors." yeah, but buckley was a yale man, vince, come on. sal, bell air, maryland "as a korean war vet i think killing patton should be mandatory reading in all high schools. the book's lesson is freedom is not free." some schools are using killing lincoln, killing kennedy and killing jesus. we also have children's books for elementary school kids for all of those. and a kids book for batton is on the way, it will be out early 2015. if you want me to sign any of my books for christmas gifts, please get the orders in now so i can p

bill: on o'reilly bernie goldberg was on there talking about the victim 18-year-old michael brown inhis and how he will be remembered or embraced or not. have a listen to this. much. >> michael brown thought he would get away with roughing yop a cop. it's tragedy when any 18-year-old kid is killed. especially for the parents. we certainly i am a these with that. but michael brown was the bad guy in this case and, please, america, let's not turn this kid into some kind of civil rights martyr because that he is not. bill: on that last point, are people going there? >> i think some people are. if you look at the signs. some of the people are suggesting he was a civil rights martyr. i agree with what some of what bernie said and disagree with the other part of what bernie said. he's right that michael brown shouldn't binized and treated -- shouldn't be lionized and treated as a hero. he was acting in a way that was threatening according to the witness accounts. nobody disagres or disputes that point. whether that threatening behavior needed to lead to the conclusion it led to, i think th

goldberg, everybody. that's next. >> a statement tonight, the week in review. last week we reported on two california police officers danny oliver and michael davis junior, shot to a criminal, an illegal alien who had been deported back to mexico a number of times but always came back. i blame some of that on governor gary brown. >> we're asking for the state of california to respect these law enforcement men who gave their lives in a situation over and that the state and federal government should be controlling but are not. and i think that we want respect. and we think governor brown should go to both funerals. and if he does not, we will hold him accountable for that. with us now, laura ingraham. governor brown did attend the funerals and that was a good thing. >> yeah, i think -- i mean, i guess, you probably had some effect on that, bill. i mean, there are a lot of people across this country whose lives have been turned upside down by the fact the federal government in collusion with a lot of states now refuse to actually enforce immigration laws. we have sanctuary states, sanctuary cities, philadelphia is one, los angeles, san francisco, others. we got a l

michael brown. that decision could come at any time. in the media and political world, some liberal people continue to officer wilson. last night bernie goldbergnd i discussed civil rights icon congressman john lewis. is he comparing the case in ferguson, missouri, to selma, alabama. while lamenting police shooting young black men all over the country. the congressman is calling for justice. and i believe that's why federal, state, and local authorities are involved. and i believe that's why their findings have been put before a grand jury. so congressman let the system function. if the fix is in, and can you prove it, i will be right there with you. in the media, the michael brown investigation and subsequent leaks were up for discussion on "the view." >> what they're doing is baiting the people to react. that's what i'm. >> or they are saying a gross injustice is about to be ignored and people are get businessed. >> you can be pissed but not be violent. >> known is saying. >> what's the injustice, you are saying if he isn't indicted that's a gross injustice you? weren't in the grand jury >> perhaps i was not. i as an american, feel it's very