michael goldfarb is here. first of all, do they only have this time before that acoustic signal will disappear and the submersible would have to make a visual contact, not the audio contact. >> people are excited about this, it's the first corroboration both of satellite tracking and amazing amount of engineering boeing did to spot it triangulated space. it's a hail mary in the sense if we luck out, it will be first time in history we've been able to go without debris and locate the so-called black boxes. if we miss this window and it is not the pingers, i'm afraid we're back not only to ground zero but facing many months or years of search to find anything in that ocean. >> i heard tom reporting earlier today there's a certain depth to those robotics and submersible. if they get lucky and find something and do launch the robotic, it can only go to a certain depth but that's approximately the ocean depth. >> it would also come to the bottom of the ocean at that point, but we're facing a tragedy in this investi

. >> steven marks, you heard what michael goldfarb had to say.e involved in the air france litigation. does what he's just articulated make sense to you? >> absolutely. in air france we had the acars. we knew in real time what was transpiring. the search site was pretty narrow in as much as we knew the general area. it wasn't shifting by thousands of miles as is the constant day-to-day shifts that we're seeing right now. i'll be a little less diplomatic. i think there has been terrible mistakes made early on in the investigation. it was obvious to me early on that the malaysian government didn't have the capability of doing it. a lot of foreign governments don't. they don't have the expertise which is a good thing because there aren't that many crashes. so they never see this before. in this particular case, i understand nationalism. but they should have called in the ntsb, which foreign governments routinely do in these accident investigations. there's no pride in not knowing. the problem here is you have boeing and the malaysian government, the

joining me now, tom costello from our washington bureau and michael goldfarb, tom, bring us up to dateas probably an erroneous report from a chinese ship yesterday morning but these are australians using u.s. equipment. >> the australian ship is carrying a pinger locater and yesterday it came up what it thought was a possible hit over the course of two hours and 20 minutes, it picked up a ping. a really consistent ping

michael goldfarb, the former faa chief of staff we interviewed said this case could be a game-changerthis debate. >> brian todd from washington. thank you. >>> for more of this let's bring in cnn analyst david soucie and stephen goelz. how likely is it that streaming will become a reality in all flights? >> i think michael gold farm is correct, that this accident will be a game-changer, but it's going to take pressure to get the international aviation community to act promptly. iko, the group in montreal that oversees international aviation is notable only for its inability to act quickly. we need to push this and push hard. getting realtime streaming, all of the objections can be answered and answered easily. >> i just want to back up a little bit. flight 370 went missing because of a series of mishaps. human error enters into this, too, right? >> it certainly does. >> go ahead, david. >> it definitely does. something to point out, too, this aircraft did have communication. we did have the way to track it. what happened was that the transponder was turned off. if the transponder had

michael goldfarb says the case is a game changer in live streaming. >> another alternative to the blackt exist right now. >> right. a deployable recorder, it's a box that would automatically eject from a plane if it's in distress and land separately in the water or on the ground. those exist in some military planes. >> military planes. >> right. >> maybe they should do it in commercial airliners as well. they've got ideas, technology's there. they haven't done it yet. >> right. >> thanks very much. >>> let's discuss what brian reported. joining us clive irving and aviation analyst, form. ntsb managing director peter goelz and also tom fuentes. you wrote a scathing article saying the black box technology that exists on most airliners is so outdated, you write, disgracefully, they're a parallel universe, talk is new revenue streams, not data streams. what's the biggest disgrace out there now? why are you so angry? >> well, i'm angry because we've had five years in which to have learned this lesson after air france 447. i'd like to say, we shouldn't have waited for the malaysians to point