republican circles, saunders -- cumbersome michael grimm had a meeting. that might be the type of event that would cause that. does not seem like we're there yet. both sides going into this meeting sticking to their guns as if it were a week ago. gerri: what is interesting about this i think, and you mentioned this system is so eloquently, they have not been talking. maybe this is a breakthrough. it has really been both sides lined up facing each other and not having the secret negotiations that you normally expect. december ended january. they ended up working something

>> i want to bring in republican congressman michael grimm joining us on capitol hill. congressman, thanks for being with us late at night. do you see a glimmer of hope here in what the president said today? >> michael's a new yorker. he's used to late nights. >> you're absolutely right about that. i am used to late nights. i think there is a glimmer of hope here. but it is going to take leadership from every side. listen. all of this has been coming to a head for awhile. this i three years in the making. it's a lot of things. i actually think that the fight isn't with republicans and the president on this one. i know a lot of people might disagree. but i think it's a lot about the fight is between the house and the senate. a lot of us feel that they're act, like the house of lords, that they have the upper chamber and they can dictator ignore us. and we've seen this with four years of no budgets and so forth, we can go on and on. i think this is about the house standing up and saying you're the going to dictate. we are going to force you to sit down to the table. we do

and congressman, michael grimm confirmed he supports a clean budget vote. that is 204. eric paulton said he would vote for a clean budget. and frank lobiondo supporting a clean budget. that brings us to 207. randy forbes of virginia said he would vote for a clean bill. jim gerlach, a statement said the same. and, he told the huffington post he was not oppose to voting for a clean budget. saying he would vote for a clean budged. leonard lance. florida congressman bill young told a reporter that he support aid clean budget. congressman, mario diaz barlart told "the miami herald" he would happily vote for a clean bill. 217. richard hanna is for it. 214. tim griffin of arkansas 215. representative don young from alaska said he would vote for a clean budget.

michael grimm, appreciate your time.ll prevail. >> he talks about normal people suffering. this impacts people in clinical trials. this is something you wouldn't necessarily think about, but we are talking about kids who have cancer delayed, not able to participate in this because the government is shutdown. more on that after this break. ♪ [ male announcer ] you know that family? the one whose eye for design is apparent in every detail? ♪ whose refined taste is best characterized by the company they keep? ♪ well...say hello to the newest member of the family. the cadillac srx. awarded best interior design of any luxury brand. take advantage of this exceptional offer on the 2013 cadillac srx with premium care maintenance included. okay, who helps you focus on your recovery? yo, yo, yo. aflac. wow. [ under his breath ] that was horrible. pays you cash when you're sick or hurt? [ japanese accent ] aflac. love it. [ under his breath ] hate it. helps you focus on getting back to normal? [ as a southern belle ] aflac. [ as a

robert costa, i want to pick up where i left off with michael grimm.re is -- as you reported -- a growing consensus in the republican ranks in the house of shifting the cr debate into the debt ceiling debate which is really going to become a grand bargain debate, a big grand bargain debate led by paul ryan and, i guess, david cant. i'll ask you if it's a good idea. here's the house, if the republicans have that, they don't have the senate, don't have the white house. do you think this is a good idea? >> i think it's a difficult proposition. but the problem for speaker boehner is the conservatives in the house will not accept a stand alone clean cr to fund the government. because he knows that, because he knows he would almost have an open revolt on the right if he did that, he's trying to move forward to have some kind of combination deal. but it's going to be very difficult because the president and senate democrats continue to insist that's not an option. >> yeah. you know, ari, i'm going to you on this. i don't see the president and the harry reid d

thank you michael grimm of staten island and bay ridge and other places.hank you. >>> up next, republicans like to toss around the word job killing. what about the shutdown? what did that cost the country? at least 24 billion bucks which is a lot of money, isn't it? anyway, this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. >>> terry mccauliffe is holding his lead in the race. according to our poll, mccauliffe leads cuccinelli by eight points. and the libertarian in the race with nine. last month the lead was five points. "hardball" back after this. >>> we're back. despite the antics of tea party red hots like ted cruz and michele bachmann, the government shutdown was not some game or street theater. the gop's kamikaze strategy has claimed more than just political casualties on the right. $24 bil

. >> one advocate of the new pipeline has been michael grimm. his district includes brooklyn.e says it would bring clean energy to new york. >> this project will be the first on natural gas to its mission project in brooklyn, staten island, and queens and more than 40 years. the 5.2 million people living in these three boroughs are demanding more and more natural gas. natural gas, as we all know, is reliable. it is clean. it is domestic. it is economic. on september 15 of last year, new york city deputy mayor testified before the national parks of committee there in support of the bill. i appreciate all the courtesy shown to him on that day. in his testimony, the deputy mayor stated, energy demands and new york city is increasing and will continue to grow. therefore, getting the project done is a major effort that includes the private sector, the city, state, and federal governments. the gateway pipeline project will generate proximally 265 million dollars in construction activity. jobs, almost 300 local and bring it about $8 million in local revenue for the city of new york.

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with us now, one republican, michael grimm of new york. thank you for joining us.n. >> thank you. good afternoon. >> can you clarify for us what your position is the gop has used relating to obama care and the government shutdown. >> from i beginning i said i didn't support a shutdown ought all. unfortunately, hi to criticize my own party, ted cruz. i've been at the forefront of members trying to come up with a resolution to end this shutdown. i think that -- i do think obama care is very bad policy but shutting the government is equally bad policy. this is not the way to get it done. i've been putting a codry of fellow members together to figure out if there is a solution. unfortunately what we're seeing is sides digging in. the president has not been helpful. i was hopeful when the president called the leaders to the white house that it would have been a substantive conversation to say, okay, guys, let's sit down, let's talk. he obviously didn't want to do that. then he comes out with rhetoric that it's my way or the highway. this is problematic on many different

there is some unease in republican circles, saunders -- cumbersome michael grimm had a meeting.the type of event that would cause that. does not seem like we're there yet. both sides going into this meeting sticking to their guns as if it were a week ago. gerri: what is interesting about this i think, and you mentioned this system is so eloquently, they have not been talking. maybe this is a breakthrough. it has really been both sides lined up facing each other and not having the secret negotiations that you normally expect. december ended january. they ended up working something out. before you knew it they had a tax deal done, all these other deals done, and that was it. you have not been hearing about any of that on capitol hill. the speculati on this from a number of watchers, number of people on the hill and around here in the white house is that this is an exercise to get everyone to gather. said they are not going to negotiate. republicans, that's what they're looking for. we expect perhaps the house spear might come out to the cameras after words. we might hear from some

one of those representatives is michael grimm, a republican from new york.congressman, thank you for being on "new day." >> thank you for having me. >> do i have it right? what are you saying you would do here in terms of helping to get the government out of the shutdown? >> well, one, play a leadership role in putting together a bunch of pragmatic members to come up with a solution for this. at this point there's no easy solution. both sides have dug in. the democrat side won't discuss anything at all. they won't even have a discussion, republicans are now in a position where they don't want to cave in because it sets a bad press sent that the senate would be somewhat dictating how the house runs. so it is untenable. that is why i think we'll need a coalition of members to finally say, listen, the most important thing here are those people that aren't going to work today, that have bills to pay, that can barely make ends meet. those that have small children. they don't know what to help them. that's what's important, not our ego or poll numbers. we need to

and congressman, michael grimm confirmed he supports a clean budget vote. that is 204.ric paulton said he would vote for a clean budget. and frank lobiondo supporting a clean budget. that brings us to 207. randy forbes of virginia said he would vote for a clean bill. jim gerlach, a statement said the same. and, he told the huffington post he was not oppose to voting for a clean budget. saying he would vote for a clean budged. leonard lance. florida congressman bill young told a reporter that he support aid clean budget. congressman, mario diaz barlart told "the miami herald" he would happily vote for a clean bill. 217. richard hanna is for it. 214. tim griffin of arkansas 215. representative don young from alaska said he would vote for a clean budget. that means 216. and florida's own representative. who wrote an op-ed in the tampa bay times why he supports funding the government without trying to end health care. congressman ross brings us to -- ♪ ♪ don't want to put too fine a point on it. but the votes are there. i mean unless the members of congress are telling thei

. >>> out from front, michael grimm from new york voted yes to stop the shutdown. congressman from florida voted no. >> you think ted cruz comes out looking like a winner. >> i think he is standing with his beliefs. any time get where you stand for something like that, and engage the american people, i think everybody wins on that. >> everybody wins. all right. rush limbaugh weighed in. let me play that as well. here is mr. limbaugh. >> we learned that one guy standing up can stop the status quo in its tracks. can you imagine in this last fight if we would have had five or ten ted cruzes? if we had five or ten ted cruzes, we'd win a lot of debates. if we had 45 ted ted cruzes in the senate, we'd come close to winning every vote. >> you have to love rush. he went from one to 45. 45 cruzes. a good idea? what do you think? >> i would have to say no. that's not a great idea. >> and so you know, you just heard the congressman say he's standing with his convictions. everybody wins. what's your response? >> unfortunately the principles and the convictions may be correct b

. >> i want to bring in republican congressman michael grimm joining us on capitol hill. congressman, thanks for being with us late at night. do you see a glimmer of hope here in what the president said today? >> michael's a new yorker. he's used to late nights. >> you're absolutely right about that. i am used to late nights. i think there is a glimmer of hope here. but it is going to take leadership from every side. listen. all of this has been coming to a head for awhile. this i three years in the making. it's a lot of things. i actually think that the fight isn't with republicans and the president on this one. i know a lot of people might disagree. but i think it's a lot about the fight is between the house and the senate. a lot of us feel that they're act, like the house of lords, that they have the upper chamber and they can dictator ignore us. and we've seen this with four years of no budgets and so forth, we can go on and on. i think this is about the house standing up and saying you're the going to dictate. we are going to force you to sit down to the table. we do

i want to play what michael grimm, another member of that coalition ready to deal, said this morning.oal is to work with members like peter king and others to put a coalition together, you know, charlie dent has been at the forefront of this as well, to work with members like that to get enough members to go to leadership and say, listen, this is where we think we should go and this is our strategy. but all we can do is try. >> john, could members actually sway john boehner, a small, relatively small group of moderate members like that? >> the speaker has these guys on the left side of the caucus, you have the guys on the far right, he's got to balance somewhere in between and he's trying to listen to all the members. once again i'm trying to tell chris, the speaker is trying to come up with a strategy that gets us through all of these crises. if he doesn't have a unified conference, we're not going to get anything done. i don't think that -- i think that the moderates are going to listen to the speaker for the time beaing. the speaker is not going to bring up anything that he can't p

anderson cooper talked with michael grimm on whether the house will go along with the senate deal. >> heard the details. the deal coming together in the senate. government funding through january 15th and debt ceiling increase through february 7th. is it something you can accept at this point? >> i think only because the circumstances we will accept it. we likely to change something nominal and pin it back because procedurally it's better to come from the house. things can work quicker because of procedures but putting that aside it's substantially the same package. it probably will pass here but i think it's unfortunate that we missed an opportunity. old sides behind closed doors we do have a debt problem and this was an opportunity to fix at least part of it to take some steps forward and we didn't do it but at least the sides are talking right now. from where we were, that is glimmer of hope. the fact that vice president biden is involved tells me the president is serious this time about getting something done. >> on piers morgan live a 'cha the with suze orman. >> you have a few m

pennsylvania, pete king of new california,nunes of charlie dent of pennsylvania, frank wolf of virginia, michael grimm of new york, erik paulsen of minnesota, and rob wittman of virginia. she points out in her story that less than a day after the government shutdown, house republicans are slowly but steadily coming forward to say they are ready to pass a bill to fund the government, with no strings attached. the list i just read a moment ago -- it would take 17 republicans, along with all the democrats, to cobble together the votes to pass what is known as a clean, continuing resolution. at thery is online huffington post. 17 republicans needed if that is going to change. democrats line, good evening. >> my concern is, i am a registered nurse, and i work for a city hospital that is not-for- profit. i do not see the big deal. i do not see what the big problem is. what is wrong with giving health care to those that need it? what is wrong with giving health care to those that are uninsured? it is better for our country. it is better for our people. .t is better for the population i do not understand it.

number 15, representative michael grimm from new york. in a statement released by his office. demanding this, this is not looking at the big picture. he supports a clean, continuing resolution. i'm sorry to do this again. . one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 1, members of your party. number 16, representative peter king. he was one of the first members to do this. he said he thinks house republicans would prefer to avoid a shutdown and will only vote for a clean continuing resolution to fund the government. 16. number 17, representative forbes of the state of virginia told "the virginian pilot," he supports the clean funding bill that passed in the senate. quote, unfortunately for us, this is not a game. this is real lives of people. that's number 17. and timely number 18 that's officially out there, mr. speaker, is rob whitman of virginia. quote, i voted to avoid a government shutdown to continue government funding and although i have not had the opportunity to do so at this point, i would support a clean, continuing resolution to get our government bac

republican of pennsylvania, representative frank wolf, republican of virginia, representative michael grimm, republican of new york, representative aircraft paulson, republican of minnesota, rob whitman, republican of virginia, frank lobiondo, republican of new jersey, randy forbes, republican of virginia, representative jim ger lock, and representative mike simpson, republican of idaho. 17. why is that significant? it takes only two or three more republican congressmen, republican congressmen to step up and say they will vote for the c.r. that we sent over from the senate to reopen the government of the united states of america. there are six republican congressmen in my state of illinois. i challenge all of them, join this group of your fellow colleagues and the democrats in the house who don't want to punish america and 800,000 federal workers. what's at stake here? it isn't just bragging rights about how this crisis ends. what's at stake is much more. it even goes beyond the life and death situation faced by hundreds at the national institutes of health. i'm still stunned by what i was