now former baltimore police commissioner michael harrison who is here with us tonight. one of the things that was mentioned, the different areas you are going to look for and trying to get into this person's past. social media might be a place. any notion of a manifesto or anything like that. let me ask you about how wide a net would be cast to find this particular person of interest. >> thank you for having me when we first offer my condolences to all of the victims of these horrific incident. i think that the net is pretty wet. it could be nationally or internationally. considering how close to canada this location is. it's gonna be local, state federal resources all working together in coordinating, communicating and collaborating. to figure number one, kind of know who this person is. but where has he been? what has he done. i am very concerned. i've heard the previous commentator the last colors. talking about his ability to create harm. a training would leave him to anticipate a police approach. the tactics police would used to try to track it out behind him. whic

michael harrison and juliette ka kayyem, if you will please stay with us. when we have that briefing we will bring it to you live. and we will look at this, as this tragedy unfolded as family bowling alley last night. we will be right back. >>> all right. welcome back. take a look right here at white house, and what you will notice up top the flags have been lowered to half-staff. this is as we are learning from the white house is coming from president biden as the white house puts in a mark of respect for the victims of the senseless acts of violence perpetrated lewiston, maine. as the manhunt is under way for the person of interest, you have president biden has ordered the flags to be lowered to half-staff in respect of how deadly this mass shooting has turned out to be. rahel. >> kate, we will be hearing from the police in about 15 minuteses or so, but right now, there is a person of interest, and that is what the police are calling him, and he is linked to the mass shooting that has left at least 22 people dead. his name is robert card, and i want to br

we are used to seeing people like martin sheen, michael douglas, alan alda, harrison ford, kiefer sutherland, bill pullman, james cromwell who has played the president twice and prince philip once, he seems to be the type for male leaders and billy bob thornton are those are usually the folks who are cast in television or film as president. i was sort of looking at we have this example of morgan freeman and then i was looking forward and at that point in 2007 we had, and db woodside on a television show 24 as president. we also had chris rock as president in the movie head of state. terry crews in a theocracy and also at that point jimmy smits in the west wing which we talked about, there is an evolving category or grouping that i saw, black men, or men of color who were sort of getting into the narrative. i was looking at that and as i was looking at that, i went a little bacar, of course as one does as a historian, there is a film from 1933 at features a black president but really the first one in the contemporary. is this movie call the man starring james earl jones it was made in 1972. i

question of representation because we are all used to seeing people like martin sheen, michael douglas, alan alda, harrison ford, kiefer sutherland, bill pullman, james cromwell, who has played the president twice, and seems to be the archetype for male leaders of some kind. and, billy bob thornton, who has also played it twice. those are usually the folks that get cast on television or film as presidents. i was looking at, we have this example, as i said, morgan freeman, and i was looking a little bit forward. at that point in 2007, we had dennis hayes bert on the television show 24 as president. you also had chris rock as president in the movie, head of state. terry crews in a theocracy. and, at that point, you would see jimmy smith in the west wing, that we already talked about. there is an evolving category or grouping that i saw of black men or men of color who are getting into the narrative. i was looking at that, and as i was looking at that, i wenta little bit backwards, of course, as one does. historians. there is a film from 1933 that also features a black president, but really, the first one in

question of representation because we're all used to seeing people like martin sheen, michael douglas alan alda, harrison ford, kiefer sutherland, bill pullman, james cromwell, who's played the president twice, and also prince phillip once. he seems to be like the archetype for male leaders of some kind. and billy bob thornton also played it twice. that's usually the folks who get cast either on television or film as presidents. and so i was sort of looking at you know, we have this example, as i said, of morgan freeman. then i was looking a little bit forward. and at that point in 2007, we'd had dennis haysbert and d.b. woodside on the television 24 as president. but you also had chris rock as as president in the movie head of terry crews in idiocracy. and also you at that point, you would see in jimmy smits in the wing that we had talked about, sort of there's an evolving sort of cat warrior grouping. i saw of black men or men of color who who were sort of getting into the narrative of. and so i was looking at that and and and as i was looking at that, i went a little bit, of course, as one does with h

michael's that this case in, in the, to canadians. and they were, they were all this, they were not chinese. and in one particular case, who i spoke to, i spoke to harrison lee who's the son of kylie. and his father was detained on espionage charges. now his father is shanghai born, but he's an american citizen. and he's been jail since 2016 and in the interview, harrison said how he hasn't seen his father in person for 7 years. and he reckons it was his father's notion dollars. he was the reason that he was targeted by the chinese government and prisons, and we can listen to him here. i think that's the most frightening aspect of hostage diplomacy that literally anybody can be targeted simply for their nationality. and my dad's case against an american citizen and you know, because i guess blue passport, he was targeted by the chinese government for a leverage. and that's, that's the simple reality of the situation. yes. so we see there have you refer us to hostage diplomacy? that's a big factor in the, in the reasoning behind why a lot of these people are forbidden from leaving china. and i asked him, we agree with this as a background, whether he felt