from wolfowitz was staff and michael hayden the head of in a say who said when the president said would you please snoop on americans violated the first well he also didn't even know the probable cause was in the third fourth amendment doesn't play right and you know when the president said look would like you to monitor americans that's the first commandment at it as they are used to be thou shall not snoop on american citizens so this is all part of a larger i mean would you call it the global chessboard this is a sort of these are people who think that the american empire should be pursued by ways you words such as afghanistan and iraq and god forbid iran that's a real real problem because the same people that are advocating war in iran are exactly the same people who escaped with impunity having advocated as in surely did for the war in iraq it's bizarre it does seem like the foreign policy strategy has not really ended since the bush administration system kind of is waving unfortunately have to wrap it up thank you so much for coming on and sharing your most road mcgovern analyst n

general michael hayden. he is now a principal with a security firm in washington. thank you for joining us. >> yes. >> peter: how prepared is the country for the cyber threats of today? >> not as well prepared as we need to be. my successor at the national security agency, general alexander was asked a similar question. he said on a scale of 0 to 10 we are at three. that should not be comforting for anyone in terms of the real and present danger that exists out there in the cyber domain. >> peter: we talked about the fact congress left town route without -- without resolving the debate. is that irresponsible? >> i'm not in a position to judge congress. i will comment that one of the reasons they were unable to arrive at a consensus is that we, the nation, we have not yet arrived at a consensus. the question i ask, the dilemma i pose is that we as citizens have not determined in broad terms what we want the government to do in this cyber domain to defend us or what we will allow the government to do. the most prominent bill up there in the sent at had the remarkable

. >> few people know more about the dark military art of cyberwar than retired general michael hayden. he's a former head of the national security agency and was cia director under george w. bush. he knows a lot more about the attack on iran than he can say here. >> this was a good idea, all right? but i also admit this was a really big idea too. the rest of the world is looking at this and saying, "clearly, someone has legitimated this kind of activity as acceptable international conduct." the whole world is watching. >> the story of what we know about the stuxnet virus begins in june of 2010, when it was first detected and isolated by a tiny company in belarus after one of its clients in iran complained about a software glitch. within a month, a copy of the computer bug was being analyzed within a tight-knit community of computer security experts, and it immediately grabbed the attention of liam o murchu, an operations manager for symantec, one of the largest antivirus companies in the world. >> as soon as we saw it, we knew it was something completely different, and red flags start

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we'll hear from general michael hayden. he now advises the romney campaign.some of the last marines to be deployed to the afghanistan this week as the war draws down. richard gere and susan sarandon stop by the studio to talk about their new movie. all that a little bit later. that will do it for the morning news this friday. happy friday. we made it. i'm terrell brown. take it easy. i'm terrell brown. take it easy. have a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> and developing new set of and not this morning. investigators are trying to figure out if there were police fires within an hour of each other are connected. >>>

it's the good the bad of the very very met a gnostic lee ugly the good michael hayden hayden the former bush administration n.s.a. head and cia director told the israeli newspaper audits that any attack by israel on the us on iran would only delay that country's nuclear weapons program and would in fact push that country to develop a nuclear bomb soon he said to the paper that an attack quote will only set the iranians back some time and actually push them to do that which is supposed to prevent getting nuclear weapons currently the obama administration is trying to use a diplomatic solution to resolve tension with iran the republican war ox in congress have repeatedly said that an attack on the country on that country of iran is america's only option maybe mr hayden's words will change their minds on the old and. the bad arizona attorney general tom horne horne is on a mission mission to stop the use of medical marijuana in arizona on thursday horan filed a suit with federal court. saying that possession distribution and called evasion of marijuana are all forbidden by federal law and

force against targets overseas who are considered to be enemies of the united states now general michael hayden when he was the cia director said that liberal democracies do not normally wage war on the basis of memoranda locked away in a safe in the department of justice and he urged more openness but the truth is it's not open we really don't know the quality or the value of the intelligence that were provided and how these targets are selected and that's part of the problem and that is what president obama spoke about a little bit in that c.n.n. interview is that they that he wouldn't confirm his involvement or picking up the targets but that to some capacity he is involved now if they also carry with the taint and what tunnel bay for a number of years he also went through a saudi rehabilitation institution that's supposed to i want to get this right focused on replacing militant ideology with religious moderation and obviously those methods that and work very well if if we are going to hand down a few years later well first of all in fairness to the saudis they have had considerable success

coming up, looking at foreign policy and with former cia director michael hayden. later, a look at u.s. fiscal policy, taxes, and the european debt crisis. first, a portion of the discussion on the differences between osama bin laden and the new head of al qaeda. >> that i could ask the panelists briefly to give a report card about how you feel he has conducted himself over the last year or so since bin laden's death? is there anyone within the ranks who could step up and have the kind of stature to command respect among them today? thank you. >> i would say i give him an a-. the reason is because i think he has a very different view than bin laden did. he had this exhaustion attrition strategy when it came to the united states and the west. he has continued that to a certain extent. he has very much switched the inus to building affiliate's other countries and to increase the strength of al qaeda in africa, the middle east, and elsewhere. the has been very successful at it. here is the one thing about him that has me on a knife's edge. if he were really smart, he

michael hayden was a national security agency director and cia director under bush and designed bush'sspying program at nsa. it's on and on and on. these are the people advising him on foreign policy. >> it's quite a lineup and they are the kind of people that if he is elected will be serving in some way. you know the rumors as well as i do. that john bolton is on the list of pressure groups to become the secretary of state if romney is the president. >> let me again show you how right you are he said that the qualities that should typify our foreign policy. unbelievable. >> it's unbelievable. and voters should consider what is going to take place in the next four years, with netanyahu to strike a launch against iran. >> right. >> with what is going on in syria. iran and syria, and you put those two together, al, as you know, that is a very serious -- a rock is a aaa farm team compared to getting involved in iran and syria. if these people want to start wars in iran and syria, you could well be talking -- i'm not being hyper bol lick here. you could be talking about world war iii. >> m

. >> retired general michael hayden is a former cia and national security agency director. he's with us and an advisor to governor mitt romney's presidential campaign. thank you for joining us. you have been in the belly of the beast to stay in the intelligence apparatus of this country. today is a crucial day. there are going to be protests across the middle east. what does this mean? >> first of all, what we're going to learn today is probably not a secret that we'll have to steal somewhere. this will be in public view. what i would be looking for, since it's friday and the mosques will be crowded, how many people demonstrate, in how many cities, how close to american installations are they allowed to get, how violent are they and finally and most important, what do these governments, many of whom who are understandably quite weak what do these governments do to protect americans and american installations. we'll learn an awful lot about how much power, how many legs this movement has. >> let me ask you, because there are a number of intelligence officials that are saying

for my teacher secretary michael chertoff and cia turf michael hayden described the urgency this way, we carry the burden of knowing that 9/11 might have been averted with the intelligence that existed at the time. we do not want to be in the same position again when i cyber9/11 heads. it is not a question of whether this will happen. it is the question of when. this time, all the guns have been connected. this time the warnings are loud and clear and this time we must heed them. in contrast to the known threat of cyberattacks come another persistence we face comes from those that we fail to even anticipate what the 9/11 commission memorably referred to as a failure of imagination. the so-called black swan event that cast our assumption. these are our most vexing problems because we cannot simply build around every potential target. never the last we strengthen information sharing and the analytic capabilities of law enforcement and intelligence officers can disrupt the even more whether they are ones that we know well are coming for those that we have never before seen. in my judgmen

we'll get started with general michael hayden. of course, for many of you very, very familiar. for those of you who are not aware of his illustrious career, he was director of the central intelligence agency, the first person to be only that in our history. as you recall, there was the transition, and he served in that position from 2006 to 2009. he's also the only director of the agency who was also director of that agency across the river and up the baltimore/washington parkway called the national security agency where he had a long and illustrious career, and i've already alluded a bit to that as well. i've always considered general hayden an intelligence officer who wore a military uniform which i think is important in understanding his character and insight and why i think he's made an important impact on the intelligence discussion. he'll lead off with certain topics that we fed them earlier on to stimulate their thoughts on reflecting on their career, and then we'll follow with mr. woolsey and mr. goss. general hayden? [applause] .. but, that linkage between the intellig

we are joined by general michael hayden.at we are not getting new intelience with our new policy since 2008? >> in one area we are falling a bit short. we don't detain people you don't detain you don't interrogate them. pepitration and imagery . but one very important thread, we have just not gotten much information from detainees. i am indode concerned about that. we have made it so legally difficult and politically dangerous to detain anybody our option is simply to kill them. >> brian: the army manual to question them and too controversial and no where to hold them and trying to shut down git more to begin with . >> if we capture them and don't put them in a article three court in the american legal season . it appears that we decide not to capture them. >> you love the fact that we are killing al-qaida and liby and number two is now dead. but makes people wonder if we are safer because the al-qaida brain trust is dying through drone strikes, are we? >> we are. the al-qaida prime and that group that harmed us on the stan

. >> michael hayden was talking about counter terrorism and policy between the clinton, bush, and obama administrations. he was giving the josh rosenthaal lecture dedicated to one who was killed in the world trade center. he talked baht -- at the ford school of public policy. [applause] >> thank you for the kind introduction. you may notice i'm not a graduate of the air force academy, all right? i would ask you to take it easy on the cadets because in a year or two, they will be defending you. [laughter] thanks for the opportunity to be with you here this afternoon. it's really an honor to be part of this distinguished lecture series. i want to be worthy of that honor, and i want to do and say something here this afternoon that adds to our national discussion and our debates about the world in which we find ourselves. given the anniversary of 9/11, i asked if i could talk about law and policy and the war against al-qaeda. let me -- military profession, we do bottom line up front, and what i hope to show to you in the next 35 minutes or so is despite all the long knives and sharp politic

. >> now comments by cia director michael hayden.versity of michigan in ann arbor, michigan. this is an hour and 15 minutes. [applause] >> thank you very much for that kind introduction. you may have noticed in the short biography that i am not a graduate of the air force academy. i would ask you to take it easy on this kid that's because in a year or two they will be defending you. thank you for the opportunity to be which -- to be with you this afternoon. i want to be worthy of this honor and do and say something here this afternoon that adds to our national discussion and our debates about the world in which we find ourselves. given we are in the 11th anniversary of 9/11, i want to talk about law and policy and the war against al qaeda. in the military professiona we o bottom line up front. what i hope to do is despite all the long knives and sharp rhetoric, we have arrived at a consensus on how we want to defend ourselves against this particular enemy. let me start it at the beginning. that the start by referring to a mentor of m