my guest, michael hayden, who has 1 both the cir and the nsa, and a former journalist, now a member of canada's parliament, who was on parliament hill on wednesday when those shots ran out. christa, you were in lockdown for almost ten hours. did it ever get really scary? >> yeah, fareed, it was really frightening, particularly at the beginning. like a lot of people who were inside center block, i heard the shots, and i ran to take cover in a room. for the first few minutes, maybe even the first hour or so, we didn't know if it was just one gunman, if there were others there, and we were worried. i would like, though, to single out how well the house of commons security officers responded and also to point out, although we the mps and staffers and visitors to canada who were in lockdown were scared, corporal nathan cirillo died. he's going to be buried on tuesday, and our whole country is really sad for him and his family. >> you wrote a piece about all of this called "canada, keep calm and carry on." and it is striking. you have lived in the united states for a long time. the differenc

my guest is michael hayden who has run both the cia and the nsa and christopher freelan who is a former journalist and now member of canada's parliament who was on parliament there when the shots rang out. crista, you were in lockout for almost ten hour, and did it get really scary? >> yes, fareed. it was particularly frightening in the beginning, and like a lot of people inside of centre block, i heard the shots, and i ran to take cover in a room. for the first few minutes, and maybe the first hour or so, we didn't know if it was one gunman or others were there, and we were worried. i would like to really single out how well the house of common security officers and the rmpc responded and to point out that we, the mps and the staffers and the visitors to canada who were in lockdown were scared, corporal nathan cirillo died and she is going to be buried tuesday and our whole country is sad for him and his family. >> and chrysta, you wrote a piece "keep calm, canada, an carry on." and the piece says that it is sometimes an overreaction to these events, and in canada, there is a measured

i had a great confrontation over the telephone with michael hayden, who you just saw, where i read him -- i got him on the persony bluffing the pr at the nsa and said, i need to talk to him right now. i was shocked to got on the phone. i read him the top of the draft of the story. he goes -- gasp. that is when i knew we had it. so we had the story ready. hayden and the government started to crack down on "the new york times" and pressure them to hold the story until -- it was ready about two or three weeks before the election, in mid-october 2004. after the election -- >> can you just explain. what does it mean when the government pressures the leading newspaper in the united states? what does that look like? do they march through the offices of "the new york times" into bill keller, the executive editors office? >> usually with a ask is for us to go to them. -- first meeting was between it was probably early october, mee september 2004 between and the washington bureau chief at the time. john mcglothlin, then acting cia director and his chief of staff john mohs and. we met at the cia

general michael hayden, welcome back to "america's newsroom." canadian foreign minister said terrorism is the great struggle of our generation. i don't think i have heard that in six years. have you? >> not on this side of the borderer have much from national leadership. there is a pit of combat terrorism fatigue near the united states. i think the president played to that a little bit and i don't mean to be critical, the tide of war is receding, al qaeda is on the run and it's time to do nation building at home. but the enemy gets to vote. bill: and they are voting in a big way and a ferocious way in iraq and syria today. when it comes to the issue of lone wolves. you have dealt with this. can we stop it? >> no. i have to be truthful. this is at a they are hold below the kinds of attacks we feared, 5 and 10 years ago. what happened in canada was a tragedy but it wasn't a catastrophe. what we have are lower threshold attacks. they are very difficult to stop particularly when the individuals seem to be self-motivated. >> i want to can your brain

general michael hayden, who led the cia until 2009, and before that, led the nsa, told lesley stahl on "60 minutes" he does not think risen should be forced to divulge his source. i amke america, conflicted. i am. you're talking about ruining lives over things about which people are acting on principle. i think very careful about it. >> c would not be pursuing jim if you had the decision to make? >> frankly, i don't understand point. >> james risen will join us democracy now! tomorrow to talk about his new book, "pay any price: greed, power, and endless war." seven high school football players in new jersey have been arrested and accused of sexual assaulting four teammates. the players, between 15 and 17, are accused of holding down and penetrating fellow students in the locker room. the football program has been suspended. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. since the killing of unarmed black teenager michael brown in ferguson, missouri two months ago, protesters have taken to the streets to call for

. >>> also in the news this morning, former nsa director michael hayden is standing up for a new york times reporter who broke the story about the agency's excrete wisecret wiret program. he said he's conflicted about whether james ricin should have to reveal his sources. >> i know the damage that is done. i do. i also know the free press necessity in a free society. >>> 107 names have been added to the national fallen firefighters memorial in maryland. 98 of the firefighters died in the line of duty in 2013 including 19 arizona firefighters who were killed in the yarnell hill fire. more than 200,000 pictures and videos meant to disappear might be coming back. it is called the snappening. the photos sent by various snap chat users have reportedly been hacked by the same group that released nude celebrity photos. >>> a hawk attacked a drone as its prey in cambridge, massachusetts. you have to see this. a man attempting to capture footage of the foliage spotted a red tail hawk circling his drone. he lowered the drone, but the hawk attacked anyway. the man killed the motor to avoid harmi

. >>> former nsa director michael hayden is standing up for a "new york times" reporter who broke the about the agency's secret wiretapping program. hayden told "60 minutes" he's conflicted about whether james risen should have to reveal his sources. >> i know the damage that is done, and i do. i also know the free press necessity in a free society. >>> 107 names have been added to the national fallen firefighters memorial in emmitts burg, maryland. 98 firefighters died in the line of duty in 2013, including 19 arizona firefighters killed in the yarnell hill fire. >>> ben affleck has competition on the batman front. we're talking about the batman who starred in the lego movie who may now get his own feature film following blockbuster potential. >>> "the walking dead's" fifth seen premiered last night. the actor posted this video call is the reaction to the episode a twitter explosion. >>> could there be a new bond girl? leah sadue has reportedly been cast in the next bond film due out in 2015. >>> a hawk attacked a drone as its prey in came bin, massachusetts. a man attempting to capt

michael hayden told 60 minutes james risen's story damaged national security, but hayden added that it's wrong if the method of redressing that damage harms the broad freedom of the press. risen faces potential jail time as he battles government efforts to force him to testify at the trial of former cia officer accused of leaking classified information. >>> turnovers going from bad to worse for the burgundy and gold, reaction to yet another loss still ahead. >> reporter: it was a beautiful day for the 30th army 10 milder. i'm peggy fox at the finish line. coming up i'll have some of the stories from the 35 now runners. 35 -- 35,000 runners. >> i'm first alert meteorologist erica grow, a pleasant end to the weekend, but showers are on the way and it could be unsettled monday. look at your wakeup forecast. of course, it's a holiday for many of us. you might not have to head out early in the morning, but it will be in the low 50s for most with a few sprinkles at 6:00, but more scattered showers moving in through the day and milder temperatures, too. we'll talk about it all coming up in the

. >> michael hayden said after 9/11 he was summoned and told any powers you want you tell us, we will give them to you. i have reason to know the nsa resources went from the to 80% focused on surveillance for terrorism purposes, not crime purposes like a crime control act. how many lawyers were assigned the task of determining whether the fourth amendment was complied with. when the president's own privacy and civil liberties finally got around to looking at the program the president trusted it was held secret for so long. not only is it not authorized by statute, it was unconstitutional. now the cases are in the courts, one district court say is unconstitutional, another one went the other way. the case is on appeal in the court of appeals but we shouldn't always rely on the court to say whatever the last word was and this was in 1979. the president himself as well as congress should be alert to their obligations to understand liberty is the center of our constitutional universe, not end higher and where there is ambiguity which is liberty, not and higher. >> it is a hot issue but --

it was adopted by a marxist in the 1960s. >> michael hayden and booze allen left the government. you understand the revolving door of the intelligence community than you don't know what's going on. >> bruxelles want to be clear about this. you are saying people in the government the highest leaders are deliberately fear-mongering and provoking more so they can become wealthy? >> not directly that way. it's not necessarily a direct quid pro quo. it's like mr. mcconnell in virginia but there are subtle signals and they know it's what's going to happen afterwards. they understand they will go back and that's what they do. >> see you think these leaders are mentioned and their highest government leaders are just as guilty as governor mcdonnell who was just convicted of corruption? >> that's not what i'm saying saying. you can abstract understanding without direct quid pro quo. you think the people in government don't know what's available outside? i think you are very naÏve. sure they know. >> rather than ad hominem attacks whether to elevate debate one of the issues when the militar

. >> and former director of the cia, general michael hayden says we need to be concerned about terrorists online recitements. >> what we have now are these lower threshold attacks, they are very, very hard to stop, particularly when these terrorists are self-motivated. the recruitment that's happening on the world wide web, at what point does that radicalization process protect it from free speech and free thought into something that's inevitably violent in which we as a people, as a community, have a right to interfere. >> so as a country, how do we move forward from this, as we are faced from evil, directly confronted by multiple attacks, a reluctance by the administration. out of irrational fears, plus a need to be able to proceed forward with counter intelligence, surveillance, without people saying their liberties are being violated. that's the conundrum as we see it. >> i remember the ap won a pulitzer by exposing the nypd surveillance on mosques. the important thing to know is that this is not criminal activity. criminals want to get away with a crime. when they rob a bank, they wa

michael hayden does not think the government should prosecute the new york times reporter who blue the lid off the agency's surveillance of americans. the reporter james ryan is facing jail time if he doesn't come forward and reveal his sources. >> this won't sit well with the tribe. navajo nation president rubbing elbows with the owner of the washington redskins at sunday's game in arizona. shelly was given the treatment. outside the stadium protestors marched against the redskin's name calling it racist. >> switching gears a wild day of football in the nfl. sunday night was all eagles. the philadelphia eagles lighting up the giants in a blowout philly debut in a black uniform that may be here to stay because they won 27-0. the dolphins hosting the packers. green bay scores the game winning touchdown with seconds on the clock. they win 27-24. a frustrating end in incincinnati. panthers and bengals in the final seconds of over time. they miss the field goal. the game ends in a tie 37-37 first of the season. i will take a tie over a loss any day. coming up, another bounce house blows aw

also joining us is michael hayden.en them. >> i thought you were laughing because i called him admiral, sergeant and then director. >> i love donny. that's all right. >> i think back, i'm from p pensacola, big navy time. guys trained as pilots and you knew they wouldn't see much action. maybe a run over libya. i'm looking at this book, you could have never imagined in the mid-1990s what was going to happen. nobody could have. our world changed so radically. what kind of an impact indict have on what you did and what you saw? >> well, we had a secretary of state named larry eagleberger who said after the fall of the soviet union a lot of people are going regret this because we're in a whole new world. >> it was supposed to be end of history. it was really the beginning. >> yeah. it started again. it's bean really rough ride. i can't think of a tougher time than we're going through right now. >> how surprised are you that the iraqi army just meflted away in a week or two? >> i'm not that surprised. these things are tough

michael hayden. >> you're talking about ruining lives over things about which people are acting on principle. so i would be very carefully about it. >> i don't see the necessity to pursue, jim. >> when you hear the nsa say, the government shouldn't be going after you? >> i'm surprised, i was pleasantly surprised, i'm glad he has come around to that view. >> do you still think you're going to get a subpoena? >> it's hard to tell. there was a hearing in the case, it's still in the works i'm not quite sure what the government's next move is going to be. >> all right so this has been hanging over you for years. it must be difficult but it's great to see you. best of luck on the new book. >> a controversial new recommendation from the american academy of peed yal pediatrics g for a big change in the way we approach birth control for adolescent girls. to discuss a broad range of contraceptive options with sexually active teens. including intrauterine devices instead of more popular forms of birth control. joining us now from seattle to discuss the issues this all raises is dr. gina sacato who co-w

michael hayden. >> you're talking about ruining lives over things about which people are acting on principle. so i would be very carefully about it. >> i don't see the necessity to pursue, jim. >> when you hear the nsa say, the government shouldn't be going after you? >> i'm surprised, i was pleasantly surprised, i'm glad he has come around to that view. >> do you still think you're going to get a subpoena? >> it's hard to tell. there was a hearing in the case, it's still in the works i'm not quite sure what the government's next move is going to be. >> all right so this has been hanging over you for years. it must be difficult but it's great to see you. best of luck on the new book. pay any price, greed power and endless war. "consider this" will be right back. >> kentucky... >> iowa... >> local elections with national impact >> we're visiting with the people making the decisions... >> covering what it all means for you... >> ...the mine shut down, it hurts everything... >> i just keep puttin' one foot in front of the other... >> we're fighting for the future of our state >> for straight fo

it was adopted by a marxist in the 1960s. >> michael hayden and booze allen left the government. you understand the revolving door of the intelligence community than you don't know what's going on. >> bruxelles want to be clear about this. you are saying people in the government the highest leaders are deliberately fear-mongering and provoking more so they can become wealthy? >> not directly that way. it's not necessarily a direct quid pro quo. it's like mr. mcconnell in virginia but there are subtle signals and they know it's what's going to happen afterwards. they understand they will go back and that's what they do. >> see you think these leaders are mentioned and their highest government leaders are just as guilty as governor mcdonnell who was just convicted of corruption? >> that's not what i'm saying saying. you can abstract understanding without direct quid pro quo. you think the people in government don't know what's available outside? i think you are very naÏve. sure they know. >> rather than ad hominem attacks whether to elevate debate one of the issues when the militar

general michael hayden is a retired four-star general who served as the director of both the cia andsa, among many other illustrious appointments in his nearly 40-year career of public service. he was appointed director of nsa by president bill clinton and served 1999 to 2005. after his tenure at the nsa, general hayden went on to serve as the country's first principle deputy director of national intelligence, the highest ranking intelligence officer in the armed forces. in may of 2006, president george w. bush appointed him as director of cia and he served there until 2009. he's a frequent commentator on many major news outlets as well as having been a foreign policy adviser to mitt romney's 2012 presidential campaign. he's currently a principal in the chertoff group and distinguished visiting professor at george mason university. barton gelman, immediately to my left s a two-time pulitzer prize winning journalist and lead reporter on edward snowden's disclosures at "the washington post." he's actually met snowden. >> once. >> he spent 12 years on washington post and won numerous aw

retired general michael hayden told "60 minutes" correspondent lesley stahl that james riden of "thei not revealing who gave him the secret information. >> so you would not be pursuing jim if you had the decision to make. >> frankly, lesley i don't understand the necessity to pursue jim. >> you're shocking me that the former head of the nsa is saying it's coming down too hard. >> i'm conflicted. i know the damage that was done. i do. know the free press necessity is in a free society. and it actually might be that i think, no he's wrong, that's a terrible thing to do america will suv were that story, but then i have to think about that. how do i redress that. if the method of redressing that actually harms the broad freedom of the press, that's still wrong. the government needs to be strong enough to keep me safe but i don't want it so strong that it threatens my liberties. >> risen says he'll never reveal his sources. he wrote a book publiced by simon & schuster, which is a division of cbs. >>> the bounce house crashed to the ground after reach about 50 feet. it happened at an orcha

retired general michael hayden told lest see stall that james risen of "the new york times" is acting gave him the secret information. so you would not be pursuing, jim, if you had the decision to make? >> frankly, leslie, i don't understand the necessity to pursue jim. >> you're shocking me that the former head of the nsa is saying that it's coming down too hard. >> i'm conflicted. is i know the damage that is done. i do. i also know the free press. it actually may be i think, no, he's wrong. that was a mistake. that was a terrible thing to do. america will suffer because of that story. but then i have to think about, so how do i redress that? and if the method of redressing that actually harms the broad freedom of the press, that's still wrong. but government needs to be strong enough to keep me safe, but i the don't want it so strong that it threatens my liberty. >> risen says he will never reveal his sources. he wrote about the nsa in a book published by simon and shuster. >>> a 2-year-old boy is in critical condition after the bounce house he was playing in flew into the air. ano

michael hayden, former director of the national security agency, says that he doesn't think the governments" reporter who blew theid off the agency's surveillance of americans. that reporter is facing jail time if he doesn't come forward and reveal his sources. >>> and here is something to cheer about on this monday morning. an airman surprises his girlfriend, his cheerleader girlfriend on the side lines during the redskins-cardinals game in arizona. not only did he come home early from the middle east, he popped the question. >> looks like we have a guest. >> and that must have been good luck for the home team because the cardinals won 30-20. so congratulations. >> very nice. >> the entire stadium got to witness that because as a cheerleader, i'm sure she feels very connected to that team. >> she said yes. >> of course. >> honey, pack up the parachute and go back up. >>> meanwhile, 22 before the top of the hour, extreme weather in the midwest, new video from oklahoma city. check out the lightning. the storm also producing massive hail and this morning a tornado watch is in effect over muc