. >> general michael hayden, who ran the nsa and cia said this is a dangerous position. he's not a trump supporter. he said this is dangerous.

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general michael hayden.e was speaking saturday on hbo's belmar. >> i would be incredibly concerned if a president trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that candidate trump expressed during the campaign. waterboarding in a whole lot more because they deserve it. let me give you a punch line. if you were to order that once in government, the american armed forces would refuse to act. >> that is quite a statement, sir. i thought the whole thing was, you have to follow orders. >> you are not committed. you're not required. you're not required to follow an awful -- an unlawful order. amy: zaid jilani, were you surprised by michael hayden's comments? >> let's be clear, the bush administration did order waterboarding and did a number of things that were illegal. the military and intelligence apparatus is did follow those orders. perhaps it is a matter of trump is sort of more of noxious in his rhetoric, more of noxious in his personality, no doubt about that. perhaps that is part of the rea

i mean, donald trump was absolutely right and michael , hayden, what he said, is completely absurd.he idea that the u.s. military, in mass, refuses to follow orders if they constitute illegal conduct or war crimes is negated by the entire history of this country, including very recently. you do have isolated members of the armed forces who periodically refuse on grounds of conscience or legal and moral duty. they denounce certain tactics. they resign from the military. they refuse to follow orders. but overwhelmingly, the u.s. military has been continuously willing -- and not just the u.s. military but also the cia -- to , engage in all sorts of war crimes and illegal behavior. who is it who instituted the worldwide regime of torture because they were told to by the bush administration? or who was it that instituted a policy of kidnapping people without trial from around the world and putting them into dark black sites outside of the reach of the red cross and other human rights organizations? or who is it who carpet-bombed cambodia and laos and vietnam? it's this really self-pleasi

it is hurting america in that way. >> reporter: yeah, i would agree with michael hayden. i think to make the comments has made about keeping -- setting a moratorium on the entry of muslims into the united states is contradictory to everything this country stands for. it's inflammatory, and it reinforces those who make the argument that the west is anti-muslim. therefore, yes, it is a recruit tool. this is a very strange kind of foreign policy team he sketched out. i don't know a lot about any of these people, but i did note that a couple of the names have been associated with the totally far-fetched and ridiculous notion that muslims in the united states are trying to establish sharia law across america. i mean, this is absolute far-fetched, ridiculous gobbledegook. if donald trump is buying into that kind of low-level, inflammatory gobble debook in his foreign policy team than it is along with other proposals and suggestions in the process of making the world a much more dangerous place. >> on that point, is that part of the problem here? that he's not -- doesn't seem to

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. >> former contribution a and nsa director, general michael hayden, discussed his book, "playing to the edge," and offered his views on intelligence and national security. he talks about waterboarding, the apple iphone encryption debate and the brussels terror attacks. the american enterprise institute hosted this event. it's about an hour and a half. >> thank you. whoa, we're life. we're live. >> good afternoon, everybody. welcome to the american enterprise institute. i'm marc thiessen, a fellow here, and we're pleased to be joined today by former cia and nsa director michael hayden. with the events in europe this week, i can't think of anyone better than mike to enlighten us and put these, put everything that we're seeing on our television screens into perspective. mike, thank you for joining us. >> thanks, marc. thank you. >> so you have a new book out called "playing to the edge." what motivated you to write that book, and what does it mean. >> sure. in the forward which i actually wrote at the end, the manuscript was already done, and penguin said, so why'd you write this book,

current mayor de blasio, but i do want to play what the former cia and nsa director, general michael hayden about ted cruz and donald trump's comments this morning. let's play it. >> i do think we need to have an adult conversation about the role of islam and the civil war within islam, but savannah, the main point here is in the united states, we may have radicalized individuals. we do not have radicalized communities. we have it within our ability to create radicalized communities and some of the rhetoric in the presidential campaign trends us towards that great, great problem. >> so here you have the former cia, former nsa director saying some of the rhetoric that you and i were just discussing, some of which you did not condemn, could potentially put us in a great problem. >> well, i think you have to call the threat what it is. it's radical islamic terrorists. when you take a look at what we're facing in america and the anxiety that exists in this country after the attacks in europe as well as in the united states. you say what is the current plan to deal with it? what is the strategy?

. >> general michael hayden, nsa director and other experts have said when you ask the u.s.o carry out some of your campaign promises, specifically targeting terrorist families, the military will refuse because they have been trained to turn down and refuse illegal orders. >> they won't refuse. they aren't going to refuse me. believe me. >> we wanted to know what general michael hayden thinks of donald trump's change of course. that debate question was just last night and the possibility of donald trump as commander in chief. he served as an adviser to the jeb bush campaign and an author of playing to the edge, american intelligence in the age of terror. i spoke to him before phone just before air time. general hayden, today we saw something rare from donald trump about as close as he comes to saying i was wrong. what's your reaction on his reversal on the idea of illegal orders to u.s. military personnel? >> well, frankly, i was very heartened to see it, but less than 24 hours ago, he had a quite different position. he doubled down on the position and now he seems to correc

so he's not starting the job ready, which is what michael hayden is saying. that he is continuing to learn, so it's on the job training. his foreign policy is on the job training? >> that's not what i'm saying. >> you're taking my words -- if you think there's any individual on the face of this planet that knows every inner working of every relationship on foreign policy, that's just ridiculous. nobody is going to know every single facet. but at the same time, i think what you need to understand is what their overall philosophy is. and what their principle is when it comes to foreign policy. i think the most important thing is knowing that the interests of our country and the interests of america will be their number one priority in keeping america safe and putting americans first. >> you're right to point out -- >> every decision you make is with that in mind, then i think that being president is more than knowing facts and figures. being president is about being prepared for things that you don't know are coming. i think that's one of the things that is so

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someone like michael hayden was not soft on terrorism who of theands -- the head nsa and cia and understandshe threat of cyber attack well, also has ended up coming down on the side of apple. that encryption is something that is valuable and important for our national security. >> no exceptions from michael hayden? >> the exception of building a backdoor to break through this encryption, he is on the side of apple which i think is interesting. people have switched sides on this. country is divided. it's not a black and white case. it's a series of trade-offs. >> here's what he said to you -- he said the way we get somewhere can be very ugly but we ultimately arrive at the right thing. >> he things the right way to arrive there is to have this debate collectively, publicly, have congress address it. can't there be any limits? deciding incourt one domestic terrorism case that it's ok to unlock the phone, another court might decide it is ok in a robbery case or a divorce case or a tax fraud case. don't we want congress to be the the ones who say these are the circumstances under which we break

charlie: no exceptions from michael hayden?ancy: this exception of building a backdoor to break through this encryption, he is on the side of apple which i think is interesting. people have switched sides on this. country is divided. it's not a black and white case. it's a series of trade-offs. charlie: here's what he said to you -- he said the way we get somewhere our journey is very ugly. but i am an optimist that we ultimately arrive at the right thing. thinks theink he right way to arrive there is to have this debate collectively, publicly, have congress address it. you said can't there be any , limits? if it's one court deciding in one domestic terrorism case that it's ok to unlock the phone, another court might decide it is ok in a robbery case or a divorce case or a tax fraud case. don't we want congress to be the the ones who say these are the circumstances under which we think it is ok to break into a phone? these are the circumstances which it is not. charlie: i know tim cook and respect him but he calls up the idea t

former cia director michael hayden told bill maher the military would refuse trump's order. >> you areequired not to follow an unlawful order. that would be in violation of all the international laws of armed conflict. >> reporter: experts say, the i was only following orders defense has been rejected since nueremberg. but he said -- >> they won't refuse me. if i say do it, they'll do it. that's what leadership is all about. >> reporter: trump insisted for months he won't back down. now he's backing down, saying in part -- >> reporter: the ranking democrat on the house intel committee adam schiff now wants trump to disavow torture all together. >> joining me now pete hexa, iraq war veteran and carl higby, a former navy s.e.a.l. why, pete, we saw the reversal today, even though he's held this position for months now? >> i'm glad he reversed it, but it's typical trump. all bluster, little substance. he talks a tough game, but when pressed he's an armchair tough guy. this is a guy who said that john mccain is not a war hero, yet he sought his own five military deferments. because he says

we will take you back to the discussion with general michael hayden. >> lebanon could be put in there, libia certainly, this is not about getting back to the stable world order from which somebody has pushed us out. that is gone. in answer to your question, we -- where is paul nitz? the next president will need him to scope how fundamental the issues have now become. until we do that we will be doing this for a long time. >> in the back over there? >> hi. >> thank you. in your opinion general, after the paris and brussels attacks, how important is it the persh mega should be on? >> i think that is called a leading question in the american court. so, it is actually tying very closely to what i just said. all right? this is me being critical of policy which isn't quite the intelligence officer role but here it goes. if you don't believe iraq existing why would you insist on approval from baghdad? i understand, if i am still backing government and in the sit room, one has to be careful what one says, and how one does think. but my instincts are, and this is all about a structure in the m

there is this from a vowed republican and former cia director michael hayden.john kasich, he has had to look outside his party when it comes to leadership on national security. >> number two right now, best prepared from day one? secretary clinton. >> gcome on. >> no. >> why? >> because she is well prepared. >> general hayden explains straight ahead on "morning joe." the pursuit of healthier. it begins from the second we're born. because, healthier doesn't happen all by itself. it needs to be earned every day. using wellness to keep away illness. and believing a single life can be made better by millions of others. as a health services and innovation company optum powers modern healthcare by connecting every part of it. so while the world keeps searching for healthier we're here to make healthier happen. when you think what does it look like? is it becoming a better professor by being a more adventurous student? is it one day giving your daughter the opportunity she deserves? is it finally witnessing all the artistic wonders of the natural world? whatever your

michael hayden: everything we've done has been lawful, it's been briefed to the appropriate members of congress. the only purpose of the agency's activities is to preserve the security and liberty of the american people, and i think we have done that. sharyl: president obama also defends the government's mass data collection. president obama: when it comes to telephone calls, nobody is listening to your telephone calls. that's not what this program's about. joe: my advice to people is, put nothing on the internet that you wouldn't take a billboard out on 42nd street and broadway and publicize. you have your bank records, your health records, you're looking at porn sites, your illegal dating, or whatever you're doing is all known. sharyl: by the government. joe: and by their agents. now let's remember who the agents are. the agents are the telephone companies, the agents are the banks, the agents are apple, the agents are google, the agents are facebook, they're all involved. sharyl: what do you tell apple if they were to call you and ask you for advice? joe: i would have said, keep thi

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take you live to the american enterprise institute and hear from former cia and nsa director michael hayden. he has a new book out. just about to get underway live here on c-span. [crowd noise] >> thank you. we are live. good afternoon everybody. welcome to the american into present city. i'm a fellow here at the american enterprise institute and we are pleased to be joined today by former cia and nsa director michael hayden. with the events in europe this week i can to give anyone better than mike to enlighten us and put everything we are seeing on our television screens into perspective. thank you for joining us today you have a new book out called "playing to the edge." what does that mean? mr. hayden: just a brief terms of motivation. in the forward, which i wrote when the men's group was already done. payments is right -- what you write this book? i talked about being in australia, in the outback a joint facility. is called pine gap, we call it ellis. is really in the outback. road and you come to a "t." ayers rock. is way out there. we were having a schmooze and we were walking off th

the irony you are using [indiscernible] [crowd noise] director cia and nsa michael hayden has a new bookgiven with counterterrorism titled "american intelligence in the age of terror." people talk about it this afternoon at the american enterprise institute. we will have live coverage at noon eastern. the supreme court predicates on the health care law contraceptive coverage mandate that is being challenged by order of nuns. they say the opt out provision violates their religious freedom. we will play the oral arguments tonight at the :00 eastern. -- 8:00 eastern. christopher bale talks about his new book on how anti-muslim fringe groups became mainstream. here is a preview. >> i will argue today that his phone number of anti-muslim organizations in the wake of the september 11 attacks captivated the media, specifically through emotional cues. although these organizations were once peripheral actors in the broader family of organizations try to shape public discourse about islam, they have raised more than $242 million. the most significant campaigns to shift american public opinion agai

. >> former contribution a and nsa director, general michael hayden, discussed his book, "playing to the edge," and offered his views on intelligence and national security. he talks about waterboarding, the apple iphone encryption debate and the brussels terror attacks. the american enterprise institute hosted this event. it's about an hour and a half. >> thank you. whoa, we're life. we're live. >> good afternoon, everybody. welcome to the american enterprise institute. i'm marc thiessen, a fellow here, and we're pleased to be joined today by former cia and nsa director michael hayden. with the events in europe this week, i can't think of anyone better than mike to enlighten us and put these, put everything that we're seeing on our television screens into perspective. mike, thank you for joining us. >> thanks, marc. thank you. >> so you have a new book out called "playing to the edge." what motivated you to write that book, and what does it mean. >> sure. in the forward which i actually wrote at the end, the manuscript was already done, and penguin said, so why'd you write this book,

former nsa chief and director michael hayden speaking out, showing clinton showed very poor judgment. what she set up is inconceivable and the explanations are incoherent. it was a terrible mistake. whether it represents a crime, i'll let the american justice system decide. eboni: he nails it. at at heart of this controversy is the server. why did she use a personal server in her home. i'll tell you something. here is what's interesting about what the judge is saying. he says there is a constantly shifting admissions by government officials where they are deciding why the server was in there and what the reasons for it and which emails get disclosed to the public and which don't. the official was saying -- her aide were saying should she get a blackberry which should be subject to the government public record act. you do not want your aide pleading the fifth. an report investigation happened, she engaged in hours' long hearings. what more could be revealed? eboni: they are kind of going into the final phases. there are 147 investigators work on this. they will be looking at kind of ha

we are pleased to be joined by michael hayden. the events in europe, cannot think of anyone better than he to enlighten us and put everything into perspective. thank you for joining us. you have a new book out. what motivated you to write this book and what does it mean? >> in terms of motivation, why this book? ? , i talk about being in australia in the outlook -- in the outback at a joint facility. it is really in the outback. you land at the airport and you to on the road, and you come a t. it is way out there. some meetings, and we were walking out into the brilliant outback sunshine. i spoke to my australian counterpart -- wouldn't you like to take your citizens in there and show them what these kids are doing? and the answer was, yes. that is the book. know of something so essential to american democracy that is less well known by the american population than american espionage. the purpose of the book is to walk up to the cipher lock, punch and the numbers, and bring in my countrymen. introduce them to the people and to man

michael hayden said, we never do anything of those things because they deserve it.hat is the not reason we do it. the reason we do any tactics are because we want to get information. we want to get evidence. can never come from that place they deserve it. what do you think about that? >> two points you're making. one is, what do we do on terrorists do we torture them or not? that is one of your questions. the other question what does trump mean when he says what he says? what trump means we're done playing pattycake. we're all finished. we're not playing little kids games. if you're terrorist, which catch you, we'll extract all information we can from you, no matter what. that is what he means. trump is inarticulate, martha. i will give you that, but i think he is right. thank you. martha: really appreciate you being with us. thank you so much, congressman duncan hunter and we will be right back. my school reunion's coming fast. could be bad. could be a blast. can't find a single thing to wear. will they be looking at my hair? won't be the same without you bro. ♪ wh

michael hayden said in a showtime documentary if some future president is going to decide to waterboard, he better bring his own bucket because he's going to have do it himself. does donald trump realize if he's becomes commander in chief, they may refuse his orders? >> first he said they have to expand the law, like the bush administration did, elicited it's an enhanced interrogation meth method. yesterday 31 people lost their lives. and i think most people aren't worried about inconveniencing salah abdeslam with the pain of waterboarding if that means gaining valuable intelligence information. i don't think that's the first concern on people's minds. they want to make sure their family members don't end up dead. >> bob, your reaction to that and to what cruz and trump have been saying. >> waterboarding now is illegal. it was a form of torture and it was decided we had do away with it as a form of enhanced investigation. i listened to bratton today, the police commission are of new york and he was very interesting. he said the idea that ted cruz is going in and monitoring these neighbo

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and with us in washington, retired general michael hayden: barnicle, take it away. >> admiral stavridisesident of brussels. your impressions of what happened yesterday and of the way belgians handle intelligence that we give them. that you have given them. >> indeed. i'd start by saying to anybody rebel judge is a small country, 10 million in the population. so this on a population-adjusted basis is a 9/11 event for them. this is like 3,000 americans being killed in a day. so it's a moment of real shock to the system. in terms of their ability to handle intelligence, mike, they are not as good as the french, not as good as the britts. they are a small country. they need more help. general hayden as spoken about the way we need to cooperate more, that's key in the intel. but the bottom line is dealing with the symptoms won't get this done. we have to go to syria and raqqah. >> rudy giuliani, i saw you reacting to the president's -- >> i feel very bad about that. he's my president, too, and the reality is to analogize himself to david ortiz? david ortiz is a designated hitter. he's the pr

the former cia director and four star general michael hayden has slammed trump on his foreign policyissues. listen to another portion of anderson's interview where mr. trump. >> when you say increase the laws and do more than water boarding whereas that specifically. >> we'll work on that with the generals. >> i talked with michael hayden. >> he says it is terrible we talk that way and that is why we've been fighting this war for many years. >> he says your foreign policy ideas frighten him. >> he frightens me. because we've been fighting ices for many years. and this should have been over with quickly. and that is the problem. we have these people who are frightened because i'm protecting the terrorists. >> so jeff is mr. trump saying hayden doesn't know how to fight isis? doesn't know what he's doing? what is he trying to say? >> there is still not a clear line between what is torture and what is not torture and it is apparent with other candidates. ted cruz in the debate in december said he would not allow torture in any form and then early january classified clarified saying wate

michael hayden is a retired air force four-star general, the only person ever to have headed the ciaew book is playing to the edge, american intelligence in the age of terror. general, is it possible america was targeted in this attack, this is as close as they can get to us right now overseas? >> it's possible, michael. at the strategy level laying this out, killing americans would have been viewed as an added good but what they wanted was maximum impact. they wanted the largest number of casualties and they did it in a place, michael, in an airport in this particular airport in which so many people have been. so this is an attack that gets felt by a whole lot of people. that's the impact they were looking for. >> are the belgiums up to the task, or does the united states need to step in and coordinate intelligence gathering in that part of the world? >> the belgiums apparently are not up to the task, certainly not up to the task at the moment. i don't know that that reality drives the second point that you made, michael. we need to help, we need to offer. you have european institut

former nsa and cia director michael hayden recalled the decisions he made as a director of both agencies following the events of september eleventh. on the coming weeks, nancy cohen nancy : on the challenges that women face in politics and the potential of a female president. that will explore the history of a voter fraud and suppression. also coming up former congressman talks about the guiding principles he follows in his professional and personal life. this weekend, former bush - this this department john you contends that executive power has gone beyond its constitutional limits under president obama. >> i think the story of the obama administration has been the expansion of the united states, of the federal government as a whole, when we look at the media and sometimes we see eruptions, signs here and there, lots of cases but the real story is just how large the government has grown over the last seven years. we might see it in cases like the obama care statue, we might see it in bailouts here and there. it's a story that's in almost every subject area where the federal government a

speakers include michael hayden, mike rogers and other defense and intelligence officials from the george w. bush and obama administrations. that's live at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow here on c-span3. >> the media teaches that us democrats and republicans are supposed to be at odds with each other. and i think that people need to recognize that we need to be respectful towards each other, and we need to understand that senators are respectful towards each other, and that will be more conducive to getting real policy done, instead of just acrimony and vitriol. >> the truth is, these people we see on television, on c-span, are real people. when we saw president obama, i think the thing that stood out to me the most, he had bags under his eyes, he was tired. he's a real person, dealing with real things. so i thought that was perhaps most interesting. >> sunday night on q & a, top high school students from around the country attending the u.s. senate youth program talk to us about the week-long government and leadership program, plus their plans for the future. they met with the blanches of government

>> former nfc a and cia director michael hayden recalled the decision he made as director of both agency following the events of september eleventh. in the coming weeks on afterwards, nancy: on the : on the challenges that women face in politics. and the potential of a female president. then we ask for voter fraud. also coming up former congressman talks about the guiding principles he follows in his professional and personal life. this weekend, former bush justice department official contends that executive power has gone beyond its constitutional limits under president obama. >> i think the story of the obama administration has been the expansion of the administrative state, of the agencies, the federal government as a whole. when we look at the media sometimes we see corruptions, tiny signs here and there, lots of cases are collected in the book but the real story is how large the government has grown over the last seven years, you might see it in cases like the obama care statue. or the bailouts here and there, it's a story that is in almost every subject area where the federal gover

officials are concerned about donald trump's lack of specific expertise, former nsa director michael hayden spoke about it this morning on fox and friends. >> donald trump was asked the very question, who do you talk to on foreign policy? he said he talks to himself. i think he was kidding. deirdre: here's who i am going to pick for my cabinet, but just begins to seen speaking with people that are recognized as military experts, as foreign policy experts. has he waited too long to talk about his cabinet? >> not at all. he named chairman of foreign policy council. my former boss, u.s. senator jeff sessions, one of the leading lights in washington, d.c. on foreign policy. the chairman of the strategic forces subcommittee. he's been in the armed services committee for 20 years and jeff sessions is putting together a team as we speak. i want to answer a bigger picture if i have a second. it is amazing that have you all the people who made all the wrong decisions lecturing us how we have to act on foreign policy. we have had a disastrous foreign policy. intervention in iraq, intervention in liby

directora and nsa michael hayden discussed his book and offered his views on intelligence and national security. he talked about waterboarding, the apple iphone encryption debate and the brussels terrorist attack. the american enterprise institute hosted this 90 minute event. >> thank you. we are live. good afternoon, everybody. welcome to the american enterprise institute. i'm a fellow here at the american enterprise institute and we are pleased to be joined today by former cia and nsa director michael hayden. with the events in europe this week i can to give anyone better than mike to enlighten us and put everything we are seeing on our television screens into perspective. thank you for joining us today you have a new book out called "playing to the edge." what does that mean? mr. hayden: just a brief terms of motivation. in the forward, which i wrote when the men's group was already done. penguin says why did you write this book? i talked about being in australia, in the outback a joint facility. is called pine gap, we call it ellis. is really in the outback. the get on the road and

>> and now on booktv's "after words," former cia and nsa director michael hayden provides an inside look at national security. he's interviewed by james woolsey, former cia director in the clinton administration. >> host: mike, first of all very fine book. enjoyed a lot. going to start right off with a couple of interesting chapters in the middle. one about pittsburgh and her history of growing up there in the same neighborhood. and the other about your family and what it's like to have a family in the midst of espionage. i thought you might want to say a word about those before we jump into things like metadata and the rest is the first of all, and you. i didn't have a chapter on me in the book i had the manuscript and the publisher says what about you? so i went ahead and put one together. as you suggest i put it near the end. it all began on a dark and stormy night or anything. it's tied to a speech i gave at duquesne university in 2007 after i was struck at the cia. to a graduating class. duchesne was my alma mater. i use that to pay that off of my expert experience and now i brought

general michael hayden, the former four-star general, former head of the nsa and cia.o be talking to him where we stant right now. how safe we are. and again, we'll try to replay that out. we have ian bremmer who is joining us. plus, guys, i'm sure were you watching over the weekend with some of the politics and what played out. ben white is going to be joining us in the next 20 minutes to talk about the american political scene. a lot coming up in nine nine minutes' time. >>> still to come on "worldwide exchange," lots more discussion on markets. we've got chad morgan joining us co-founder of washington advisers. chad, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> of course, we snapped that five-week rally in u.s. equities. small declines, though. one of the other takeaways for me. the last two or three weeks, very low volumes. markets are in a bit of a lull. they're lacking direction which is going to be the next meaningful move up or down? >> i think we're going to continue to grind higher in the short run, the policy was quite meaningful, as well as the ecb, as well as

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which is something we've heard michael hayden, a former cia director, say is unconscienceable.ary personnel would actually revolt against that if they got that order. there are serious questions about the proposals that donald trump is laying out when it comes to fighting terror and the middle east. >> factual aspects of it and even if he were to use nuclear weapons on isis, where does the country of isis exist? >> exactly. there is no is sllamic state. >> perhaps this is why the feud is heating up. >> i apologize for that. >> the author of "the wilderness," thank you, mckay, for joining us. >>> the republican race now turns to the upcoming primaries mentioned in wisconsin. any republican who wants to stop trump needs to focus on this. we'll take a look at the ground game and whether scott walker will have any influence. the horse race continues and we'll give you updated on the campaign trail and what it will take to get that magic number, 1237. we'll be right ♪ i love to take pictures that engage people. and to connect us with the wonderment of nature. the detail on this surf

the former nsa chief michael hayden just this week said that he was the best person to take on some ofecurity challenges. so he's running for the good of the country, because he can bring our country together. so what it's going to take is he's going to go to the convention and let the people decide. >> you look at the numbers, though, and you have to think there must be some sort of strategy. what is mr. kasich saying, governor kasich, about this unity strategy that is being talked about in political circles? teaming up with cruz, in a sense, some people win this side of the mississippi, some win the other side of the mississippi, just to try to keep trump from continuing to get so many more of those delegates. >> i think that makes for good reporting and good, you know, horse race politics and the like. but the strategy is to win the nomination. that's -- >> so you haven't had conversations about that? >> no, not at all. not at all. it's interesting that people keep trying to pin the establishment label on governor kasich when it seems to me that the establishment is now starting to