when i first read sheriff michael hennessey's declaration, it gave me pause for that reason. itl1specific and in this case, as many people have said, fact do matter. it is a very fact-specific inquiry. sheriff michael hennessey did not make himself available for cross-examination after the commissioners had asked repeatedly about whether he would make himself available. he chose not to. i was not able to give his statement very much weight. i did want to address that. although they gave me pause, i could not give it much weight when he was not making himself available to testify. chairperson hur: i would agree with that. >> i do not know how we can judge this one as a matter of fact, nor is it our obligation to do so. if it has any relevance at all it would be to the appropriate response or disciplined for -- discipline for an act of official misconduct, whether someone found that he did it or did not. a lot of what we have been offered was with regard to assertions that other people have done other things to be a lot like the comment to the state police, but a lot of people

it is not for nothing that our formally esteemed sheriff, michael hennessey, had a rolule that you hado be arrests-free and off a probation to enter the jail. that is because people need to heal, make restoration, and people need time to make some change. i find it very ironic that the sheriff is someone who would basically not be allowed to enter the jail because of the actions he has taken. so, while i believe in redemption and hope for the redemption for ross and his family, i do not believe he can currently served as sheriff. thank you. >> hello, members of the commission. my name is susan loftus, a native san franciscan and mother of three. as serve as a prosecutor in san francisco and the domestic violence unit. there is one thing i really want to convey. i think something is really at stake in this conversation. i have watched it on mine and sat in the hearings. we have made tremendous progress with the criminal justice community on how we address domestic violence. we've done better at listening to victims and protecting them in the wake of tragedies and done better at healing