michael hirsch was in that square last month. he joins us for perspective.ple are saying we have a genuine movement on our hands in turkey. is that what you see? >> well, it certainly looks that way. it has echoes of the arab spring, in spite of the fact that as richard was just saying, this is a very different country, much more modern, not nearly as islamist. in fact, that's one of the issues here, is the islamist nature of the government. but there's no question. istanbul is one of the premier tourist spots in the world. the square features a maile-lon promenade with shops and really modern stores, kabob stands, ice cream stands. you see an incredible variety of people there normally. it's very peaceful. so this is a very shocking sight at the heart of this city. >> yeah, michael, and we know according to the reports thus far, this is different, as you said, in many ways from the arab spring. different in the type of country it's occurring in, different in the fact there is an elected government. yet, some of the tactics at a smaller scale do obviously se