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. >> let me read you what michael jackson's nephew wrote, taj jackson, who says, i've been around my uncle only hours and hoours. since my uncle isn't here, the credibility of the accusers matter, and wade and james have none. what do you make of the strong pushback from not only michael jackson's nephew but only family members, who say michael jackson isn't here to defend himself? >> listen, he was there to defend himself. i remember the 2005 trial and how the little boy's mother was so vilified. i thought that trial was a real heartbreak. listen, all of the people who have been accused in the me too movement and before that have had people around them who love them. these stories are not all one or all the other. you can be a person who is kind, who is famous, who is skilled, who is talented, and who also sexually abused little boys. it can be hard for us to hold both of those pieces in our minds. i think the sheer number of allegations against michael jackson, the fact that there's certainly no money to be had now because the statute of limitations that has run, the fact that he insisted on bringing litt

ho do you respond? >> first of all, the film is nou michael jackson. it's about wade and james.s dead, but we include the rebuttals he mad when he was alive. we've included that in the film and given him a significant presence and his lawyers. i think this,s far as jackson's right of reply goes, we have met that fully. >> when you first c these stories, here you have two young men who for a long time did deny that it happened. so how did you approach that as afilmmaker? did you come with skepticism?d ou come predisposed to believe their new story? y how did deal with that fact? >> i've been making documentaries for 30 years, so i don't take everyone at face value. you have to remain skeptical while listening very carefully to what people had to sachlt once i interviewed wade and james which i did at length, i tried to find anything in the record in the investigations of 1993 androm 2003 to 2005, anything to contradict their story and i couldn't find anything. >> one of the other things is this is about criticism for james and wade. have either of them been paid to in the documen

department urged that michael cohen be sent to jail, that's very difficult to make the argument that the person who was directed and was coordinated should go to jail but the person ho did the directing and did the coordinating should not. i don't think that's a supportable position. so i think that militates very strongly in favor of indicting the president when he's out of office, if the southern district of new york has the evidence to prove the case against individual 1, who michael cohen identified as the president, and iven the documentary evidence, the canceled checks, given the audiotapes, given the other witnesses who are cooperating with the special counsel, it certainly appears there's no hortage of evidence. so if the justice department takes the position that cannot indict a sitting president, when that president is no longer itting, then i think it has to consider whether it should hold a former president to a different standard than it holds everyone else. i will mention, too, that the justice department argued in the case of michael cohen that it was very important to establish the principle that the rich and powerful do not operate by a different se

michael cohen gave before capitol hill last wednesday when the president was in hanoi. and then i asked the president how cohen's testimony influenced his decision to walk in ho know as the president suggested. he used it as a way to say he'd be disappointed if kim jong-un started to test missiles again. he thinks he has a good and trusting relationship with him. nothing new on north korea. but signaling to the kim regime if testing starts again, there could be consequences. >> headlines as we keep you here on all the topics as we look at the left side of the screen. that's president trump, barron trump, melania trump, walking up the steps of air force one. they'll join responders on the ground in alabama as the president heads there to look at damage before heading to mar-a-lago in south florida for the weekend. the president hopping on air force one. there's the wave. we expect to see the plane take off any minute. it's a few hours before he lands. we'll look at the maimages on ts network. he talked about the economic numbers we're seeing recently, i think, and, again, peppered with questions from reporters and you know how these things go. lots of reporters on the law