joining me now with his outlook his perspective, his savvy, if you will, michael holland, president ofland balanced fund. excuse me. i choked up. good to have you with us. >> billion but tight. lou: that lets us down in. >> thank you.3 lou: the idea that this market is just continuing to set a record. i mean, 22 records of the dow, 17 records on the s&p. everyone says it cannot happen in every week does. what is a deal? >> listening to claims for four years now. we kind of grudgingly go with all of the problems. there is one problem with a negative view that continues to be if the reserve, bernanke. he said four years ago ttat no one else in washington is doing anything to help the economy. his job is to fold. the economy to get jobs. what he said is, i will do with icahn. whatever it takes and he is continuing to do it. lou: washington's anti, the democratic party is entire business. insider-trading investigation. they're going after apple, the taxes that they have not paid. you know. it is just one thing after another. they could not be more anti business gamay's seems, if they tried

i want to turn right now to michael holland. who knows who you will meet when you come to the set of democracy now! in the middle of new york appear particularly appear particularly relevant when we talk about michael pollan. he talks about all different ways to make dinner. "cooked."ok is called he argues taking back control of be the most ourrtant step to making food system more healthy and sustainable. when he was here and i interviewed him, i asked him about the journey he took in writing the book. >> it was probably the most fun i have had as a writer, and it is hard to describe it as work exactly. i wantedgured out what to do, which was driving cooking back to its most elemental apprenticedecided to myself to a series of masters, and i divided into four central transformations, the, the nadir -- denominator of all cooking. cooking with fire, water, cooking in pots, which involves a different way of transferring heat, air for baking. earth for fermentation. in each case i found somebody who was really good at the mastery of