all-time high, 5 year bull market is far from ended, fed is a big reason why, joining us now, michael hollandpresident of holland balance fund, great to have you here, idea this market is tired is hard to make a percent waysive -- case when we watch the triple digit rallies and a follow on like this, but we had little of that. >> right, let me thank you for coming on yellow tie day. i have to say, this tired markets, to me in past, we have been around, they come when people are very involved. most people are not involved. a lot of people sold their stocks 5 and 6 years ago. we have a few people in market who talk about we're in a bubble. well we're at a valuation that is at any historical measure are reasonable. it is now a fairly value the stock market, before this thing is over, i think we end up with an overvalued market. lou: not a retail market. who among professionals in this market, trading it, where are they going with their money? what is driving their confidence right now? in the heels of you know, the idea that this is a rigged market. 60 minutes, i thought it was the funny, talkin