when deputy franklin arrived, michael had something to say. >> mr. holten had actually greeted him in the yard and told him, hey, when you come in, you're going to see my son is handcuffed, and he said i'm trying to discipline my son. >> sheriff franklin said he's seen parents discipline their kids in all sorts of ways. >> i don't think that his intent was to harm or hurt the kid. he was merely trying to see twht he could do to get his attention. >> to me putting the kid in handcuffs says either i'm disciplining you and i'm serious about this, or i'm afraid of you. possible that's what was going on there? >> could have been. could have been. >> the deputy reported april was in the living room, madison solemn on the couch, his hands cuffed behind his back. michael asked the deputy how as parents they could get the juvenile courts involved. >> he was very inquisitive about what could he do paperwork wise to get his child in front of a judge so he could talk to the judge about the problems that he was experiencing with the child. >> so maybe straighten him out