as michael housefelled who fought opanon case he said the door is open a little bit to fix this. we have to take it off the hinges. it has to come all the way down and we're still a was away from that. but big money, corrupts, and there's a lot -- there's television contracts out three years so that's a problem but the conversation is alive and people are getting involved, are you as optimistic as i am? >> not quite but we both have high hopes for these class action lawsuits could which bring change, especially the mccants ramsey lawsuit which takes aim at the educational defrauding of athletes. we have high hopes and we'll see how it goes. if you read our book, it's kind of a downer -- but in the conclusion we do try to sound some sunny optimism there. >> that was my part. >> yeah, right. i don't know how many questions we have time for. i'm sorry. who is next. >> i think this gentleman has been waving at me. i don't know if the waving works. >> the reason for not getting your job back they should welcome you back because you're doing the right thing. >> i don't really think tha

as michael housefelled who fought opanon case he said the door is open a little bit to fix this.we have to take it off the hinges. it has to come all the way down and we're still a was away from that. but big money, corrupts, and there's a lot -- there's television contracts out three years so that's a problem but the conversation is alive and people are getting involved, are you as optimistic as i am? >> not quite but we both have high hopes for these class action lawsuits could which bring change, especially the mccants ramsey lawsuit which takes aim at the educational defrauding of athletes. we have high hopes and we'll see how it goes. if you read our book, it's kind of a downer -- but in the conclusion we do try to sound some sunny optimism there. >> that was my part. >> yeah, right. i don't know how many questions we have time for. i'm sorry. who is next. >> i think this gentleman has been waving at me. i don't know if the waving works. >> the reason for not getting your job back they should welcome you back because you're doing the right thing. >> i don't really think that