john hughes had not seen me this way, and i knew the hair dresser, a guy named michael germain, he wass had not seen you yet? >> no, he approved the wardrobe. we talked about chet being kind of like this brother who's probably at a military boarding school. >> jimmy: that's pretty cool. how was john hughes? >> he was terrific. >> jimmy: he's just a cool guy? >> i had an amazing time. for me, it was a great experience watching him and anthony michael hall work together. these guys were like an amazing comedy team. >> jimmy: oh, they did a bunch of -- they did a bunch of movies together. >> "breakfast club," "sixteen candles," "vacation." >> jimmy: would he let you improvise and stuff like that? >> yeah, mostly in the rehearsals. i came up with a lot of stuff. one of my most famous lines from the movie is, "how about a nice greasy pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray?" [ laughter ] that came from my father, actually. >> jimmy: is that right? [ laughter ] >> my father was a lumber salesman. he traveled all over the midwest, and he'd come home. but i remember when i was in high school,