michael iannacone, of mdi investments, and rebel cole, of depaul university. always good to have you guys on the show. thanks for coming in. > > you bet. > > thank you. there's more on healthcare still to come. insurance premiums are on the rise. we take you behind the numbers to find out why, right after the break. ñçbÑ annual premiums for families with employer-provided health insurance are up $2300 since president obama took office. public health researchers say it reflects a cyclical upward trend that follows recession. but others say it is counter to what the president promised when he ran for office in 2008. in february 2008, then- presidential candidate barack obama vowed to lower premiums for family coverage by $2500 by the end of his first term as president. instead, it's gone up $2370 according to a survey by the kaiser family foundation. "we're slowly creeping out of recession and with that, premiums are going back up - 4% last year." but some say it's gone much higher. "15%, and i'm a small-business owner and i can't afford to pay health insurance