i think that it'slear michael jackn was a great talent. i i think eve today we have a lost young talent that perhaps in the future after they release thei"off the wall" type album they might become bigger global sts. 'lee sha keys has a cnce of being a bigger st than she is now. shakira, talented writer who knows where she can go in the future. still farm team of great artists out there. yes, michael jackson s a high standard to other artists. album.k created the inve befo mhael jackson u got one or two singles off the album. but with "thriller" seven songs became huge hits. that set a standard for event albums. around that same time you saw albu like "born in the usa. and we don't see that is much anymore. >> i jump in. we talked about this earlier. isn't itune responsibleor that? in other wor, once we stopped selling whole pizzas and gave away slices to use a metaphor usedarlier hemusic, you lose the mus business once i start giving away songs effectively, io longer have a business. wh i was selling albums, i had a tremendousbusiness. >>

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to millions around theorld, michael jackn was an idol, a hero, even a king. us today was our brotr, our son, our father, and our friend. michael jackson was and always shall be a beloved parof the jackson family and the family man. and so todaye gather, those who know and le michael best and those who came to know and love him through his good work we come together ith space where only days o michael sang and danced and broht his joy as only he cou. we come together and we remember the time. we remember this man by celebrating his lifend all of the love that herought to our owlives for half a century. our heartsre heavy today, because this man, th brother, this son, is father, and this friend is ne foo son. but as long as we remember our time with hi theth is, he is never really gone at all. as long as we rememb him, he will be there forever to cfort us. in his very beautiful and ve humaheart, michael jackson wanted nothing morthangive love to the world. to share of his singul talent and his soul, and perhs be loveback in return. through his words, his mus, an

anthe latest in to the investigation into michael jackn's doctors. we are on storm watch on this wednesday. >>> robert gates said there is a possibility the withdrawal of troops will be accelerated from iraq. he suggested one burgrave it may lead ahead of schedule -- he said one brigade may lead ahead of schedule. they plan to withdraw forces from iraq by august 2010. all trips are scheduled to be out by the end of 2011. >>> there are troubling details coming to light in the aftermath of the iranian presidential elections. they just released some of the dissidents arrested during the demonstrations and they are sharing harrowing accounts of their time in prison. >> thousands protested the landslide victory by mahmoud ahmadinejad on june 15. during the unrest, the government says 2005 hundred iranians ranging from students to politicians were sent to prison. as demonstrations in support of the opposition candidate hussein musab a , -- hossein mousavi -- prisoners were forced to make concessions to be used against them were signed papers saying they we

therere wi never be another pop star bigger than michael jackn. >> i coun't be that big partly causemv- mtv d doe't't sw videos a amomore. it doesn't payay off the way wh mhael was there. e music industry is struurured dierently. that's whamakes today so special and mak these vi so sci in the fact that there will never beanother. there may be another, but chances are the obably, in many years we won'ttsee anyone quite like m micel jakskson >> as i w w saying, no of ththes videos were, as far as im coerned, theususic was eat. ththk you for c comgg inin mie. nonow back too n neyork. w w were ju talking h here thator peoplehoho n'n' remember miael jjacon or wewere too young you wonder how many people imagin michael ckson as the monsterer from "thririll" >> michael jackson, wchch one will you rememberer? we're going to bring in e eugee robertsosonof "the w whihingn post." viously, you have diffffert t members if yououe e a black pern in this country yoyou h hav you memory oficiceljacksonrr we stst inerviewed a kiki f fro t midwest in chicagago livinginin vegas andd in onont of the stles ce

and michael jackn, who with sfamily, with that forest lawncemetery, where they were able to say their private goodyes, at a seic that la lastedess than an hour,ome questions have been asked abou whether his chdren would be. they were. he has three youn children, they are 12, 11, and 7 years old, princmichael, paris, and blanket. viously, his paents, his brothers and sisterss there. this is aroup of peop closes to michael jackson and his family. this is this processi, parts of three different freeways in los angeles were blocked off s that theeae could make its way to the staples center. anthere was a smallotorcade th brought the casket bearing miael jackson to the staples center. and then a very brief ening to the servicfrom okey ronson, reading tributes fr diana ross and neln mandela. a number of people close to michael jasowho said they would not bethere, one of them being liz taylor, the great academy-award winni actress that was so cle to michael jackson throhout h life. and i think it's interesng, toure, when you look a the people who havbe constant in michael jackson's life. and

even with the many things that haveappen had had in michael jackn's life, does it count as merican dreamhink s story counts as a quintessential american sry of struggle against theodds and making opportunities both ofyour o but in community. i mean, themerican dream i a bit of a antasy, but it's a werful one that we've constructed. i thk what most important about about chael jackson i thk is to really understand his ality to t a set of traditions, musical, cultural, religious, and tuse them in the service of a common goo not tobandon legacy,to remain conneed to it, but to connect that legacy itself to everyo in the world,and so me that's kd ofbal dream i wod imine, not just an american one. >> david and i wereoth struck by -- we would take live shots roughout this ceremony from ndon, harlem, just aound the world whe peopleere gathered ofll different races, genders, does that y cause you what touched on that global impact of , but how does that play out his legacy? >> i think his legacy is absolutely going to be global one forever. what's most importan to remembers that ts is first timewe

chris jaing wastalking about michael jackn's chdren and pas and sayinghose brave words.are teang up. when you see a child front and center come out a say those rds, b lisa marie presley was abl to ep a lowfile until she got olde and decided she wanted to be in the celebrity world. is it possible to kee these children from -- i don't wa to say magazinlike yours, but lot of magazines that follo them. >> lisa marie presley gw up in a very differenttime. we're now in a world of internet technology, twitr, facebook, the world is a lot smaller these days, so the whol entire world just saw paris d really she just w so heartfelt, and i thinthe entire world ju fell in love with her today. peep want to people want know what happened to her >> princ william and prince harry live in the technology world we livein and somewhat they were protected from th media. it's not unheard of in ourtime. >> no, it's not. i think they'rpart of the royal family and t press -- it's sortof like the barack obama children. >> sasha and mal. >> right. there's an acknowledgent by the pre to prote them a

. ♪ >> los seguidores de michael jackn, estÁn esperando, esta gente viene desde barcelona. pensamos que iba a estar organizado. cuando una persona muere en espaÑa le permiten darle el Último dios. >> a todo el mundo le gustarÍa que fuera en neverland para que sea una especie de graceland como elvis. >> ariel aguirre fue uno de los afortunados que recibiÓ un brazalete dorado para participar en Él staples centerh@h@pero de todas maneras se acercÓ. >> estamos aquÍ para mostrar nuestro apoyo. >> han mantenido a la prensa y a los fanÁticos lo más lejos posible. >> los fans dicen que sienten cierta falta de respeto hacia ellos cheque no se les estÁ dando informaciÓn concreta sobre su idolo. >> cuando llegÓ la familia, vimos a diferentes canales de televisiÓn, y el carro fÚnebre donde iba el fÉretro, tuvieron que apagar las luces, para que las imÁgenes no fueran grabadas por helicÓpteros. hubo varios famosos, entre ellos, la hermana de michael jackson, latoya. esta es la informaciÓn que tenemos en vivo. >> sin duda, una figura controversial de principio a fin. >> que puedes decir

webse, a link on thty of los angeles website, if you log into the city o los geles website for michael jacknand you can actually dona to the city and the video is up on the screen right now of that website mo than 10 thousand how fans have alrey donate the money there but only given them justver they want the $1.4illion back. so they mada plea to us, one the council wome saying we want aeg to cor our costs an weould also like the jackson family to cover our st, but they feel like a made the money on this >> probablwille more mone the city attoey has said hey, there might be reason to compel you legal to pay. we already all pay taxes. by the way -- >> isn't califoia having a massive budget crisis right w. >>come on we'll talk to you ater. >> okay. see ya. >> i have to show this. >> goahead. >> youtubeis packed now with these videos of these sort of spontaneous dance parties in michael jackson's memory. >> are you inhis vide if you look close she's in here. >> thiss msnbc vier posted this on ttter sent it to me. will you wait for it. withhold where are skepticism until you see this beautif vid

tat investigators with the coner's officeave serve subpoenas to several doctors in charge of michael jackn's care. that includes his long-time dermatologist dr. arnold kin. the subpoenas reportedly ask for evything and anything in his dical historyncluding his psycatriistory and this presumably iso they can try to piece together what has happened medically with michaejackson in the past f years d, more signifantly, what drugs had entered the picture? depending on where that coroner's investation goes, the lapd will ta cues fr that and go whicher way they need to go. as you said, chief bratton has noruled out homicide, alex. >> inah, can you ve us the latest o where micha jackson's body is and where he's going to be buried? what do we kow abou that? >> reporter: ell, the lt we ve, the last, you know, really od report that we have is that he is stl at forestawn in llywhills, which is whe he was take after his body was leased from the coroner's office. sie then there have been so many rumors and so many fferent reports about what could have hpened to it, whether hisody was actually in the caske

. >>> new detalts emerging in the custody fighover michael jackn's three children. reporting bbie rowe theex-wif and biological mother to 2f micha jackson's 3 chdren is planning to attend a july 20th custody hearin a lawyer f the jackson family yi katherine jackson and rowe are now prify and amicab trying to resol the custody ise. joining me r some perspective, a family law attorney who has covered estate cases tensively, and paul cow a former prosecutor. great to ve you bh. janet, this report 're hearing that debbieowe in fa is going to bhereat this next hearing on ly 20th. what's your read on that? does she really want custody of thkids or ishis about sothing else? >> well, if they're trying to work out a settlemt which is of course in the best interests of these ildren, her appearance is necessary to put th settlement on theecord to present it to the judgeo have it become bding agreement. >> do you agree, pau >> well, yeah, i do. buthe thing thatreally gets to me on this is where does debb rowe get off saying that she should be a custodial parent in this situatio

>> reporter:fter michael jackn was found in his home anacrding to rports surrounded by various tes ofrescriptionrugs, including an extremel powerful sedive that isn't supd to be used outside of hospita settings, access hollywood reporting that department of chiren and families wants look into the situation surrounng the children, how much exposure the may have had have possible drug usby michael jackson, and also what kind of situati they are in now. they're ling with ckson's mother at the family compound in encino. but the department of children and families wants to make sure they're ind setng and if kaerine jackson is granted permanent cusdy, rightow she has temporarycustody, will that the best place f them. that es alongalso with the custy issue of course when a judge is going to decide at's going to b best for these childre and of course, who is go to rt of throw their namento the ring to have custody, including possib their biological mother department of children andilies also nt too an investigatio which could take a month more, alex. >> okay on anoth front there are ing to be

that the current rankthird in erall online videos being looked at right no this is in the era of michael jacknabou t ad? >> i think it's the holy gra of rketing. th have notot oyated a viral message, you know, there's a lot viral messing out there ne because it's entertaining. thiss not only entertaining, t it's absolutely link to the core of whathe brand is all about. when someby passes that brand ob, passes that piece on, it's not just a great piece of entertainment, it's incredible for the brand. >> tnks so much. that's a wrapf the live msnbc.. are on a conference c ,000ish they weren' - ( phones chpiping ) - constructioion workers are makaking 244,4,0 nexextel diect connect calls. 1 milliple are resinto an email. - 151 accidentally it "reply all." - ( foghorn blows ) that's happepening n. america'a's most dendable 3g3g network bringing yo the first wiressg network. - sprint. ththe now network. - ( whoooo sound ) deaf, hard of hearinanand people with speech d disabilies accessss www.sprtrelay.com. you' ner go back to youolold oom again. anand w w a ng for mary... frfrom a broom. ♪ don't you

if that were the case, would they be ableo reconstruct what doctor gave potentially michael jackn a medicine that cld ha killed him? >>hey would have to go back and try to find if there was emy pill bottles in his house and they could see someof the aliases that werused, some way to find out what os alies names were so they could track it. otherwise they couldrack it by the doctor who may havbeen associated with michaeljackson. >> one of the drugs there looking at is propofol. >> propofol. >> used by anestheologists ke yelf. we know it's supposed to be a powerful sedative only used in an e.r. wod that be tracked if smeone took that ou of a hoital, is there arking for these medicines? >> wel that's a very tightly corolled medicine in the hospital, and e wouldave to sign that out. that just doesn't get out unless it's taken ilgally, and, of cour, if it's taken illegally, they'rnot going to be abl to nd out who did it very readily. >> how would youet it illegally if it needed to signed out? >> legay? >> illegally. >> the way hospals andurgery centers are seup now, it uld ha to be spensed, given

>> ll, when michael jackn's death gets more coverage in me broadcast d cable news outlets an did t climatechange legislation thatassed the house the day after, i think we' got a problem. and when michl jackson morial took me news time in tho cable and broadcast outlets than did the wrap-up of president obama's summit in russiwhich included a provisnal agreement to rede nuclear armsi think weeed to worry about ne judge. and it raes for me tis questin, let's ppose that we're now dealing with next week news. howuch live coverage is jge sotomayor's confirmation hearing going to get. is it going to be comparab to whatmichael jackson's merial got. d hypothetically what ould have happened if the confirmation hrings had been up against the memorl. what would thaws jgement have been. >> b smith what was the arument for giving it so muchime and do you worry about what w being mied? >> well, nothing was ssed on o showthank you for askin because we cvered th president with russia withprofessor ronalters and other so that we were able to objectively look at news that is importanto all the wor as well as talk

. >>> an overcast morning here in r urs geles, abouthoou r ay from the memorial for michael jackn.verage, beginning at 9:00, 8:00 central. >>> robin, as we break from you right now, let's go out to times square and the world famous harlem gospel choir take us into the morning. ♪ we must bring salvation back where there is love ♪ >>> good morning. first, it looked at traffic and weather. >> we had good things, but then they changed the traffic pattern. no surprise that you cannot access 45 east, the outer loop, and that is stressing traffic, and here we see northbound traffic through springfield on king street or on to the outer loop with the traffic pattern changed over to telegraph road. the topside here, everything is open for us now. and i stay in the weather center, right? >> here is the sun rise over mount airy. look at the sunrise coming out. around 5:40 a.m. for the sunrise today. a few clouds rolling out, but generally very sunny. a dew point of only 61, dew point to a near 60, so does not human. -- it is not that he met. mid-80's this afternoon, becoming partly cloudy, and

s top cop says he's not ruling tt out in the death of michael jackson and for the first time since theemorial, joe jacknaks out. you' watching msnbc. naing onon ud r. weotototatatininci on us cars for everybody anont cfidedence ininin o. caususususlendnds s ve a a a t tcks. ququq n . >>> with about half an hour left, the dow dustrials are do about 56 points. the s&p 500 down as well. oil fell below $60 aarrel. the drop comessnvestors brea for next week's cporate earnings report. >>> tim geithr says the plan stimulate the economy is on the expected path a unemployment was an inescapable part of the recession, but st imulus package was needed to reduce the risk of further job losses. >>> and power.com su the site. last yea facebook filed a wsuit against power. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide back to msnbc ch >>> weome back. >> davidthe big picture at this hour, the latest on the investigation on to at the cia may have been hiding from coress. "newsweek"eports that leon netta has ordered an ierna investigation in the hdling of a highly classified program. according to "washington post," pa

jackn. shirley servos, she travelled down from washington state and was heading in with her son brandon. >> there's something magical about michael >> and almost everybody here had a childhood memory. you saw the thriller video. >> in africa. yes. >> and you asked your dad to get you the outfit made for you? >> yes. >> what did he do? >> he got it made. >> lots of people dressed up. both those who got inside and those who did not. and as for those who did not, well, the anticipated 750,000 fans cramming downtown l.a. didn't happen. it exaggerated reality about 300 times over. that's still a couple thousand people lingering beyond the barriers and they had fun. their way. >> programs, programs. >> and with the vendors working sausages and sodas and posters and pins -- >> grab the love. get the glove. >> you're not complete without a glove. >> and the women who made their own glitter gloves for sale -- where did they come from? >> we made them. >> you made them? when did you do this? >> last night. >> you glued glitter all night? >> five bucks each for the gloves, by the way. and it felt like a festival, not funeral. at least out h

michael jackson's children. harvey levin joins us live from l.a. we hear you guys found out who will be raising jackn's three kids even if katherine doesn't get custody. >> yeah. there is a sister that you really haven't heard about, reby jackson. she is the mother of three. she has been married for more than 20 years. as the jackson's go, probably the most stable, real family woman. she has a real connection with the three kids. she has been with the kids since michael died but before that. she had a close bond with them and the kids love her. even if katherine gets custody here, the reality is that rebbie will be the one that day to day will be caring for the kids. that is what we are getting from everybody in the jackson family that we are talking to. this is one of the few areas where they are unanimous. >> we are hearing that apparently katherine jackson went back to court to ask for more money to be able to live? what is this about? >> it's interesting. basically she is saying that she was living off of michael jackson. and that she really doesn't have any means of income other than social securi

jackn's estate wilbe worth. hihisrecords have been selling li crazy. there's the possibilility ofll thes videoeos. the nameme and likens of michael jackson is at stake her hehere's wt was rereally ccial about this hearing. elawyers who ar named asas the ecutors in this will id, look, we c c't wait any lger. therere is biness at hand that nenes to b tendndedto. ta a look at where i am. i'm m at the staples center. there are big concerns abouthe mber of people who will l be out here w whunauthorirized miael jacksoson t-shirts, othth sortsf memorabilia.a. a big part of any celebty's estate, afafr theye gone, anand elvis is a peeectxample of this, is the corol of the name andd likeness. soe know that these lawyers will be taking -- actually, a lawy and a music exececive, the twoo that were nameme in th willll will be handlinghese afaffairs unl august whwhhere wille another hhearing. there is limited contntl, certainly by katatherine ckson, michael jacksoson's mother, but five-page wiwill, which looks vy skskpimpl vestraightforwardrd, s we're seeing, is incredibly complicated ininhe way it's goining to all play out. chris jansing, tha

jackn's life. for that reason, we have intruced into the house of represtatives is resolution 600 that will be debated on the floor of the use, tt claims michael jackson as an american gend and musical icon, a world manitarian, someone who wi be honored forever a forever and forever and fover and fover. were the world d we are better because michael joseph jackson liv. on behalf myselfnd the people who have spoken, michael jackson, i salute you. ♪ >> we love youmichael. you mean so much to us, especily me. ♪ike a comet ♪ blazing across the eveng y ♪ gone t soon ♪ le a raiow ♪ fing in a twinkling nigh ♪ gone too soon ♪ shine iing bright ♪ there were days gone ♪ like the loss of a ght ♪ on a clou afternoon ♪ gone too soon ♪ like a candle ♪ gone too soon ♪ like a bird ♪ that is just beyond yo reach ♪ gone too soon ♪ here one d ♪ gon one night ♪ oh like a sunset dying from the raisinmoon ♪one too soon ♪ gone too soon ♪ if i had you ♪ i'd tre you fair ♪ and treat you wel ♪ d't pushe around ♪ with my he down ♪ and wonder ♪ who loves you ♪ oh ah ♪ i need you ♪ yeah ♪ loving you ♪ i wonder >> i wrote that song. i thght i sang it. i wre that song back

up foror sale,, d m miaeae jackn whoapparently always w waededto own beatlele songs, youou know,s the highestt bidder. is it really truehh paul cartney suggested t to michael jackson, you should gegeininto this idea of o owngg pupublhing. >>wellll, atat's what paull mccartrty y hasaid in terviews. t the early 1919s, t two of them workedtotothernn few sosos.s. and papaul cartney idid i was advising him on bsisineeaeals and said eaea you shouldet in on music publishing.. at the time,papa mararey owned d ma, , ma songs and still does. then the story goes tat miiaeael jajackn said somededay i going to buy your r ongs. >> isn't thatt ironic. homumuchid chael jackson b buy theaalog for. >> $47 millilion rroulyly. >> was tt a good deal. back then i think it was s se as a lotff money. but today, obviously it seeeems like the deal ofof c cenry. in fact, i in muusi industry hihisty,y,his is seen as incrediblyly iererting alal becaususnonot ny people athehe meme kw how lucrative mususic publishihi cod be. and not manynyong writiter were buying other people's s ngngs. so i it s s a eat deal. >> that's i iereresng ththngng. a lot of people e dot t ow, that's'shehere th

i rember the michaeael jackn saturday morning cartoon n sho "off the wall" being a grgrt momt in that era. "thrilr" changingmtv and chananging tha decece real. so, iean, michael jackson has been a hugee fure in our liv and d now it t te to say good-bye to o m. we need a momenthere! this inot like a quck, okokay -- >> toure, hold on! hold on!n! how much more of a moment dyou need? do youou need twowo mor weeks o moment? i'm rious i get that we need amoment and don't disagree and i say hohor the king of po but are you sasaying wshould spend another twweeks at the same inteteity or ywhereloseo it that we've spent over the last ,11 days? no, of cose notot. we've beenieving. this i is the en of it. perhapnot every sing person isrieving but as a nation we've been m mrnin this ing. yeah, lolook. these arare showpeople, the jacksons.. do the want keep their momoment on sta going longnger than the next person would? su. michchl woulhave loved this whwholeig pgeantry at thehe stapaples ceer, a week and a half to almoststwo weeks befefr he i actually buriried. but, y know, he isuried now or at ast he will be burieie soon. he at leastt is buried in our minds,s,in o colle

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