. >> yes. >> like michael jackson. >> prince, michael jackson, whitney houston, believe it ored. we will recycle prince's music for ever. >> i don't think that shock is too strong a word to describe what the world is feeling as we absorb the fact that prince, 57 years old, musical legend, icon, performer, producer, extraordinaire has died. back with you here on msnbc. let me introduce morgan james. a singer and broadway actress and prince allowed morgan to cover his song "call my name" and sang the national anthem of the democratic debate last week. thank you for being here. talk about that experience of being able to cover a prince song. >> you know, "call my name" was the first song i covered when i started my band and when i got my record deal with eping records i corded it with my band and everybody at the label said, don't get your hopes up, it's never going to happen, he doesn't let anybody record his music. the legal -- the legal gities wl be too tough. i knew it would come through. please take this four minutes to listen to this, five minutes later he said he loved it

prince, and michael jackson upheld a tradition of excellence.. i'm not sure if it was revolutionary as finally being recognized and acknowledged how great these guys were as artists especially prince. i mean, who do you know that plays 27 instruments, write and compose his own songs and even with the presentation, it was just no boundaries of his creativity. he pushed the envelope. that opened the doors for a lot of artists that we see today like bruno bars or a deangelo or miguel or beyonce. he made it okay for artists to have freedom of expression and not be controlled by record companies as we saw back in the mid-9'90s when he wrote slave o his face. he was a tremendous musician but also conscious of the business around him and he also was conscious of owning his own and have his own creations. >> absolutely. very well said. i want to bring in the publicists and founder of the brido agency. vanessa is here. talk a bit about that aspect. sway makes a great point. prince pioneered this idea of artists really taking care of their business. >> he

nothing against michael jackson.kson is the leader of that group, but there is a support group that is helping him get to the scene. prince is alone. when michael is n.l. a with berry gordy, -- in l.a. with berry gordy, prince is a functionally homeless teenager in minneapolis. if you would have said, that little short guy is going to become all this, you would be like, no. >> yesterday as we were scrambling to deal with this, we thought, is prince a political artist or not? i can find some song lyrics. i know the gender stuff, social politics. some spirituality stuff. if i said, prince, political artist, what worked prince's politics? toure: in terms of some of the progressive stuff, it's absolutely there in terms of the embracing of racial difference and racial nuance, the embracing of gender difference in gender nuance. he was intersectional before that was a term in academia. all the sorts of things that progressives love, he was cutting edge with that sort of stuff. but susan rogers, his engineer on "purple rain

i can't compete with nwa but i can compete with michael jackson and we have to find a way. michael jackson sent prince a song called "i'm bad" and asked prince will you get on this song. prince was so offended at the notion of michael jackson doing a song called "i'm bad" in a world where prince, who is actually bad, exists, that he took the song, totally changed it, this is how you should have done it and sent it back to michael jackson which is a princely way of saying -- >> that's going to do it. prince also had a famous epic rivalry with the record labels. particularly with warner brothers music. he really did break down a lot of barriers we now see resurfacing in people like jay-z. talk about him as an icon of establishing owning your own art. tharnlg >> that was really important to him. he wrote "slave" on the side of his face. we can agree that was maybe a bit too far but he was talking about emancipation, not having his records owned by the label. he understood early on the importance and power of owning your own music. he also understood the power of the internet e

it's the same year that michael jackson came out with "off the wall." people realize that both these two titans of the music industry are gone. they were both jehovah's witnesses. obviously michael jackson had a long career before that. they both came from musical families. if you were a kid growing up at that time, prince was the provocative one. michael jackson was the who wholesome one. his notion of gender identity was pro vvocative. he was the first particularly male artist of color to overtly play with gender. he did it very overtly in his words and lyrics. he was someone that really pushed the envelope in terms of what does it mean to be a man, what does it mean to be sexual in the way we typically think men are. he pushed that envelope more than any other artist i can think of. >> i can't help by also think that he had that in common with the last major artist whose passing we mourned and that's david bowie. >> indeed, absolutely. david bowie also had a strong route in the soul tradition. a lot of them were the same kinds of soul artists that gr

i was closer with michael jackson. both of them in private, removed from prince, always admired him and he would question me about them and the conversations that we would have. and when you have people that were unique and had reached such levels as them giving him respect, it showed the kind of regard he had. he was in a class by himself and he will go down as one of the greats. whatever we find out in the next few hours and days will not amount to anything that will capture the contributions he's made toward the world's music, not just american. world music and in changing the course of how we heard music and how we were entertained. that cannot be changed no matter what. and i think that this man should also be remembered for what he and his attorney did in terms of standing up for artists' rights at great sacrifice to himself. it was unparalleled how he fought for the rights of artists, even giving up his name, a name that he had built and sacrificed and branded for many years. >> reverend al sharpton, as he point

everybody listens to michael jackson. >> and that's my point.ryone should listen to michael jackson. even his victims should listen to his music. they probably need it more than we do. they've been through a lot. >> trevor: please welcome jerrod carmichael. ( cheers and applause ) ♪ ♪ >> hey, you guys. >> trevor: oh, man. that is the most controversial clip ever. welcome to the show, man. >> i figured i'd play something welcoming. >> trevor: i don't know if that was welcoming. i mean, it was-- but, really, welcome to the show. thank you for being here. >> i'm happy to be here. >> trevor: let's start with the most important thing. congratulations on the show. it is not every day someone gets a network television show, my friend. >> thank you very much ( applause ) still, still too many. >> trevor: too many? >> too many people get them. it happens and then a lot of them are horrible, and i'm just trying to avoid that. >> trevor: you're one of the people who just snuck in? >> you do sneak in. that's the only way. you have to sneak in under the rada

only 57 years old. 7 years ago we lost michael jackson and now prince. you had an interesting story about you and prince and your parents. >> prince bridged the gap, the one artist that mom and dad liked him and i liked him and the song came on the radio, you could singalong. as kids, prince was something special. >> did you see him in contest? >> no, i didn't and i am sad. >> i remember seeing him in concert and i remember thinking this guy is so talented and such a performer because he talk to the audience. one of the best shows that i have seen. i was thinking there are very few people i would pay to see, beatles and the stones and michael jackson and prince. >> from 1985 to 1992, he released 8 albums. that's one a year. so he was not just this icon. this legend. he just kept the hits coming. how do you do that? >> you are incredible creative and talented. prince was found unfortunately in an elevator unresponsive in minnesota. out site minneapolis. the first responders a arrived on the scene and couldn't revive him. he was only 57 years old. reporter

prince was greater than michael jackson?ree, absolutely. >> prince was greater than the beetles. >> he have greater. >> no. that's a trump off. i think they are all talented in their own different ways. it's a huge loss. >> kelly, 15 contests left. donald trump lost wisconsin bad badly, are your organizations making efts there? what are states that could be conditions that are wisconsin like where trump faces real problems from your efforts? >> certainly indiana on may 3rd but even next tuesday, senator cruz is vying for delegates in states that are more hospitable to mr. trump in the northeast. indiana is a hugely important state. you have nebraska, south dakota, montana, washington, oregon are proportional. you go to the big prize of california where people will say california is the liberal state. it's a moderate state. it's a republican primary situation. ever time we run moderate republicans they lose by double digits. perhaps the republicans in california, the conservatives in california would like a real conservative.

a lost people talking about michael jackson, another legend that we lost too soon.oubt we remember where we were when we heard that prince passed away. i have the privilege of being outside the studios. donny simpson is live talking to his fans, talking to the dmv about prince, the artist, the legacy. >> prince rogers. prince is dead. >> he is taking calls and sharing stories about prince. >> you are sad, you know. but at the same time, you know, i feel so blessed to have known this man, to have have his music. to watch what did he. >> wearing black and signature purple, he said this is a celebration and reflection on favorite songs and memories. this involved sugar ray leonard. >> i bump this woman in front of me and said excuse me, ma'am and prince turned around. i was like oh, my goodness. >> laugh and love is what prince leaves behind, an artist at just music. >> he went to baltimore after the freddie gray riots. that kind of impact. that commitment to the community. >> yeah. >> it's gone. >> yeah. is there any one else to carry that on. >> there is always someo

you talk about michael jackson and to talk about rents.jackson's case, and other who almost repudiated that industry. even to the point of often times not going to award shows. he was at the grammys this year. to make a statement that he was nobody's puppet, i believe. he would go around them. i think a lot of it started with prince. >> absolutely. we all remember when he change his name to a symbol to make that point. unlike a lot of these folks that ladies games for political correctness. he was multi talented. played several instruments. he even act did. it is a sad day when the country loses such eight talent. neil: look at our greatest musical superstars. they die young. dagen: they do, neil. looking at instagram. chris rock tweeted a photo from the cover of prince's first album. he said, say it ain't so. to charles and to me, prince is really the artist of our generation. it is not madonna. it is not guns and roses. it was prince because of his found risk creativity and his boundary pushing. he made it okay to be different. he starre

same thing as michael jackson. he was dead but they tried their best to see if he can be revived and when he can't, they'll pronounce him dead. but whatever was in his system, they'll be able to find out. >> does the person suggest this is antidotal incident? pacing in wall greens? >> depending on how much toxicology. he or she is not going to mick a decision based on that evidence, the decision will be made on whether toxicology and autopsy show. before the autopsy, maybe he did have a heart disease or lung disease, pulmonary embolism missed at the hospital. but the autopsy is there to examine other possibility. >> the rest are saying it's the flu, that he had the flu and struggling witness for a week, he's 57 years old. what are the odds of that? >> the odds of that are not very great, unfortunately, given the history. the flu should not have, as harvey levin pointed out, either it makes you worse and worse and you don't go partying and dancing or you get another bout of the heart disease can cause that. a blood

also in the days of prince and michael jackson, these videos were telling a story.y were productions. also back then, labels had money. record labels don't have the same kind of money to pour into the videos. >> you also have with prince, you obviously interviewed him and been to many many of his shows, he brought that onstage. it wasn't just the videos. the videos at the time were where you saw theatrics. >> when you saw him live, he brought it every single time. his genius on many levels, one of them in constructing his image. that's why he put out "purple rain." he wanted to put out the image of being the complete showman. >> two things about prince that really separate him. one is he was obsessed with old hollywood movies, with the old studio system. he would read books about the old movie moguls. he loved movies from the '30s and the way he built his universe like a studio system in minneapolis with all the other acts and people he could work with, he was very tied into that tradition. the other thing that's amazing, i remember talking to alan leads, his road m

i mean, just in shock, you know, i mean, very reminiscent of the day that michael jackson died.disbelief. so i went to the internet, telling me tmz reported it. they get it right. and i said, i am telling you, bruce, i kept sending-- going through the internet, i called my bruceer pack who told me-- producer back who teld me prince was dead. i said i think they got it wrong. but it was just disbelief. all it was, i couldn't wrap my head around it. i was trying not to believe it. >> he was excentric, eclectic, we didn't get the embarrassment with the big stars, you didn't hear about alcohol and drug abuse. you have been to his house in minneapolis, what a person? >> prince was all about his music. you know, he was very quiet, very shy, upon first meeting him but he would loosen up eventually, he still was never very talkative guy. prince was very private. i just had jimmy lewis on my show, great producers, all of janet jackson's music and they were with the time under prince's umbrella, go back to junior high school with prince, they were tacking about how-- talking about how eve

everybody listens to michael jackson. >> and that's my point.listen to his music. i mean, they probably need it more than we do. they've been through a lot. [ laughter ] >> seth: please welcome to the show, jerrod carmichael! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: i'm so glad you're here. >> i'm really happy to be here. hey, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: i love your show. >> thank you very much. >> seth: i know it's to some degree autobiographical. it's based on your stand-up. how much of it is from your life and how much of it is the sort of conversations you'd be having even if you didn't have a show? >> most of it is those conversations. like, i don't try to take too much from my actual life. because it's named after my parents. and then i'm just releasing family secrets and then everybody's mad at me. >> seth: did your parents get tense in the beginning when you had a show? >> no, they're just excited. they haven't really seen anything like this before. >> seth: right, yeah. >> i called my dad last night. i was like, what are you d

it's the same thing as michael jackson. he's already dead but they try their best to see if with cpr he can be revived. when he can't be they'll pronounce him dead a little while later. but whatever drugs he takes will be in the system and be able to be found toxicologyically if he took drugs. >> does the person taking the autopsy consider the anecdotal information pacing and sweating outside the walgreens and the incident on the plane? >> they may consider it depending on how much toxicology there is to do. but he or she is not going to make a decision based on that evidence. the decision will be made on wh the toxicology and the autopsy show because even so before the autopsy maybe he did have some kind of heart disease or lung disease, pulmonary a.m.em embolism or something missed. it sounds like an overdose. but the autopsy is there to examine any other possibility. >> the reps of course are saying it was the flu, that he had the flu and he's been struggling with it for a week. he's 57 years old. what are the odds of th

amy winehouse among them, kurt cobain, michael jackson initially didn't have one but then they foundne. this is going to be a big fight going on for years. >> the problem beyond the obvious is the $300 million is an estimate. and lawyers now are saying that there could be hundreds of millions of dollars in the difference of that valuation depending on who comes on board to mr. the estate. >> a lot will be made afterwards because michael jackson's estate made $2 billion since his death. that's a lot of money. >> expect to see family battles. >> when we come back, the "time" 100 gala. who turned out last night to celebrate. >> what prince harry said to an admirer who asked if he's ever going to be king. "the skinny" is next. admirerer who asked if he's ever going to be king. ♪ skinny, so skinny. >> it is time for the -- >> what is it again. >> what is it? oh, "the skinny." topping our headlines this morning, america's 100 most influential people. >> the honorees out in force last night for the annual "time" 100 gala here in new york, including republican presidential front-runner donal

. >> michael jackson's daughter tweeted "rest in peace to a very beautiful soul.zing artist and human being. i wish i had the honor of meeting you." >> elton john saying he was the greatest performer he has ever seen calling him a true genius. "the new yorker" cover and it's a telling one a tribute to prince and his song "purple rain." ♪ >> not only past performances but, you know, checking with marci and looking throughout the night and the morning of people showing up around the compound and people from minneapolis just talking about what an impact he had on their area. i mean just the fact that just a couple days ago he was giving a concert for his fans and loved his music. that was his number one. >> his greatest neverwavered. from the beginning to the end he was a superstar all the way through. well, on to other news, president obama has arrived in london where he and the first lady will dine with the royals. first up is lunch at windsor castle with queen elizabeth who turned 90. tonight with prince william, duchess kate and prince harry and president obama w

. >> it is really a vault of treasure, i mean, like the beatles stuff, and michael jackson stuff.fferent type of artists. >> a song called moon beam levels. to this day, one of my favorite prince songs. so beautiful. occasionally when we were sequencing records, we would put that song into the sequence, and i would think at last, this beautiful song is going on the record, he would pull it, he would always pull it. >> she talked about that record, that song, maybe he thought we weren't ready for it. what do you think? >> prince was really well known for both being a pre digious recorder, but he was also a control freak and perfectionist. i don't think it is that mysterious, the notion of the vault. i am sure there are hundreds if not thousands of hours of unreleased material. i think the bigger question is when or if the world will get to hear that. a typical artist scenario where they don't control masters or rights, the labels will rush stuff out. here you have to figure out who is controlling the estate, who now is the owner of all of this. prince owned all his stuff. he won th

we looked at protective litigation that michael jackson's doctor went through. it is so difficult to take a pill bottle or a baggy and connect that to one particular doctor especially if there are many involved. >> if it is a baggy, yes. if it is in a regular prescription pill container, those have all kinds of information on them pursuant to the controlled substances act. the other thing that we have to remember is that prosecuting doctors for overprescribing and overdose deaths is a relatively new phenomenon. we went through almost 200 years of our country without the federal government or local state governments taking much interest in prosecuting doctors. it's only with the rise of the controlled substances act in 1970 and then also some of this medicine that we are seeing now like we saw with michael jackson where people pay doctors for personal services to be their sort of conciliary of medicine. those have led to rise in prosecuting doctors for overprescribing. whether it is under controlled substances act or criminal negligence you have to show that a do

a lot like michael jackson. he was much more open than michael was in the interview.mely shy. i would not call prince shy. he was a lot of fun. >> his first album debuted back in 1978 but all these years he has been active and performing and he certainly has been making a lot of fans happy, the music that he created, a real great talent, a final thought from you before i let you go. >> i would just say this is a very sad day in the music world. very sad day in the pop world around the world. he will long be remembered. this is one of those sad moments. they say some people are irreplaceable. there will never be another prince. >> truly a multi talented entertainer with his provocative lyrics and amazing singer. very sad to learn the legendary artist prince has died at the age of 57. thanks very much, larry. our studio contributor is on the phone now, what are you learning? we are just getting word he died. he had been sick earlier in the week supposedly with the flu. now we are getting official word that he has died. >> when i say this is shocking, it is one of the bi

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