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that was not part of the michael jackson costume. g the short pants up above the ankle like michael and the white glove. he added black face, which meant it was not foreign to him to do it. why would you add something to the michael jackson costume? >> the problem is, he wasn't a kid, he was 25 and in the military. it's the same year as this photo, '84 that he says he did black face. what it sounds to me is that he realizes that he's trying to get ahead of whatever the next thing is. >> he did say there are no other photos out there. >> that he knows of. >> 30 years -- >> it takes 30 years to see his year book. >> i apologize for mistakes in my past and i continue to learn. michael jackson and other things he may have done would be embarrassing to him from a racial perspective. yet, yet, today he's the governor of virginia and for the first time he's acknowledging quote/unquote, these mistakes after he's been nailed by a photo that's come out. >> i found it not credible or believable. >> the other issue is from a planned political per
that was not part of the michael jackson costume. g the short pants up above the ankle like michael and the white glove. he added black face, which meant it was not foreign to him to do it. why would you add something to the michael jackson costume? >> the problem is, he wasn't a kid, he was 25 and in the military. it's the same year as this photo, '84 that he says he did black face. what it sounds to me is that he realizes that he's trying to get ahead of whatever the next thing is....
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i had always liked michael jackson. i actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moonwalk, but let me tell you what happened. i have a very close friend who was my assistant during the campaign. i don't think he would mind me telling you his name. his name is seth. during some of our long rides around the commonwealth, the very issue of blackfacing came up. he really did a good job communicating to me why that is so offensive. and it was actually during that and it was actually during that conversation i said, you know, seth, i put some polish on my face. i competed in a dance contest dressed up as michael jackson. i said, i assume you probably think that is offensive. he said, i would. i said, you know, i appreciate for you being open with me. i apologize for what i have done in the past and i will never do that again in the future. reporter: we were talking to aboutther students submitting their photos for the airport -- for the yearbook. two to choose all three up debts -- did you choose all three o
i had always liked michael jackson. i actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moonwalk, but let me tell you what happened. i have a very close friend who was my assistant during the campaign. i don't think he would mind me telling you his name. his name is seth. during some of our long rides around the commonwealth, the very issue of blackfacing came up. he really did a good job communicating to me why that is so offensive. and it was actually during that and it was...
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and as i said earlier, since you brought up michael jackson, i repeat, you should listen to a michael jackson song in the governor's mansion tonight and start packing and beat it. let's bring in democratic virginia delegate lamont bagby, democratic strategist and virginia native, otmar omar. and tim wise, author and anti-racism activist. let me go to you first, delegate. the black caucus of virginia has called on the governor's resignation. has that changed since his press conference this afternoon? >> no, rev. it has not changed. actually, we put out another press release again calling upon the governor to resign. we had one meeting with the governor yesterday in which about ten of my members walked over to the governor's office and met with him to talk about our concerns and talk to him directly face to face. my members deserve the opportunity to talk to him face to face and express their outrage and concern and displeasure of what we had -- what had been revealed. just on the house floor yesterday, rev, i made a speech. it's something you are probably very familiar with, and that i
and as i said earlier, since you brought up michael jackson, i repeat, you should listen to a michael jackson song in the governor's mansion tonight and start packing and beat it. let's bring in democratic virginia delegate lamont bagby, democratic strategist and virginia native, otmar omar. and tim wise, author and anti-racism activist. let me go to you first, delegate. the black caucus of virginia has called on the governor's resignation. has that changed since his press conference this...
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i had always liked michael jackson. i actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moonwalk. >> i want to get immediate reaction from the president of the naacp. this group has called on governor northam to resign. naacp president derek johnson joins me right now. i want to get your reaction to northam's refusal to resign and his claim that he had no idea this photo was even in his yearbook. >> whether it was him in blackface, and he was in the party, in the room, or that it was in the yearbook, is an indication that blackface was a problem in 1984 as it is today. being an individual from the south, it is unfortunately a cultural norm for too many people to accept racism. for him not to acknowledge this on the front end, to identify this as a problem, to object to the yearbook, having blackface in the yearbook particularly on his page, it speaks to the character of the individual. and that inability to understand that racism is a problem not only in virginia, not only in the south, but across this countr
i had always liked michael jackson. i actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moonwalk. >> i want to get immediate reaction from the president of the naacp. this group has called on governor northam to resign. naacp president derek johnson joins me right now. i want to get your reaction to northam's refusal to resign and his claim that he had no idea this photo was even in his yearbook. >> whether it was him in blackface, and he was in the party, in the room, or...
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>> well this isn't a film about michael jackson. it's a film about the two little boys to whom this dreadful thing happened long ago. >> reporter: king sat down with the jackson family for their side of the story. >> why do you think they're coming forward now? >> money? >> you think it's all about money? >> it's always been about money. >> did it not seem odd to you that your brother would share a bed or have slumber parties with young children? >> i grew up in it for me it wasn't odd. to the outside world, i think yes. it can be odd. i'm not oblivious to what it sounds like but when you're actually there in that atmosphere and you're around it and you're watching movies where there's kids, it's very innocent. but the fault on my uncle was he didn't have that bone in his body to look at it the other way. his niavity with his downfall. >> cbs news new york. >> we'll have more of gayle's interview with the jackson family on cbs this morning. leaving neverland airs march 3rd and 4th on hbo. >> coming up, top drug company executives are
>> well this isn't a film about michael jackson. it's a film about the two little boys to whom this dreadful thing happened long ago. >> reporter: king sat down with the jackson family for their side of the story. >> why do you think they're coming forward now? >> money? >> you think it's all about money? >> it's always been about money. >> did it not seem odd to you that your brother would share a bed or have slumber parties with young children?...
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family, they're admitted liars and opportunists trying to capitalize on michael jackson'ser one of these men were paid for appearing in the documentary. they will get nothing for appearing. they think it's important, they say, to tell their story. they want people to know. i thought it was interesting. they said when you think of child sexual abuse, you think it's a painful, frightening thing. they didn't even know anything wrong was happening to them because they're little boys. >> you can't overlook the detail that they provided about how the relationship evolved. >> and what's powerful about the detail is not the acts, the narrative and the fact that both didn't know each other. >> they didn't. >> they both heard a version of the same very surprising and complicated narrative from -- they claim from michael jackson, and that those two things are similar. >> each one said they thought they were the only one and keeping the secret. keeping the secret is the thing that often takes you down. >> i've said it before, a lot of suffering in silence. it's only until people speak
family, they're admitted liars and opportunists trying to capitalize on michael jackson'ser one of these men were paid for appearing in the documentary. they will get nothing for appearing. they think it's important, they say, to tell their story. they want people to know. i thought it was interesting. they said when you think of child sexual abuse, you think it's a painful, frightening thing. they didn't even know anything wrong was happening to them because they're little boys. >> you...
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jane: two men have accused the late pop star michael jackson or sexual abuse decades ago. cumentary being broadcast next weee robson and james safechuck say they were seven and 10 years old when r'e abuse began at the si's neverland ranch. the jackson family have denied the claims. dan johnson reports from los angeles. >> ♪ cause this is thriller dan: he was the king of pop, a global icon and one of all time. -- one of the most successful singers of all time. allegations of child abuse overshadowed his later career. in 2005, he was cleared in court, but now there are new claims. >> i was seven years old. michael asked, "do you and the family want to come to dan: two men have told a documentary filmmaker that they were groomed at neverland. >> michael jackson sexually abused me fr age seven years d until 14 years old. deand the sexual abuse incd fondling, touching, my entire body and my penis. michael: hello, wade. today is your birthday. i love you. bye. dan: wade originally testified that michael jackson never harmed him. >> the idea of being called away from michael, this
jane: two men have accused the late pop star michael jackson or sexual abuse decades ago. cumentary being broadcast next weee robson and james safechuck say they were seven and 10 years old when r'e abuse began at the si's neverland ranch. the jackson family have denied the claims. dan johnson reports from los angeles. >> ♪ cause this is thriller dan: he was the king of pop, a global icon and one of all time. -- one of the most successful singers of all time. allegations of child abuse...
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admit to darkening his face with shoe polish around the same time period when he dressed up like michael jacksonth me now, april ryan, white house correspondent for american urban radio networks, and michael shear, white house correspondent for "the new york times." he also spent 15 years covering virginia politics, including the governor's office. april, this idea that northam says he shouldn't resign because he's not actually the person in the photo, but, oh, by the way, he did put shoe polish on his face one to dress up as michael jackson, is he literally the only person who refuses to believe it's over? >> wait a minute. you forgot one thing. the coonman in the other yearbook. he's delusional right now. you have the first black governor who was reserving judgment until he heard the press conference. you have his friend, bobby scott, congressman bobby scott, who said, you know, it's hard for a friend to denounce this, but he is. you know, there are many -- those two along with others are feeling that as he, you know, wanted to portray michael jackson, he should just moonwalk out of there. he
admit to darkening his face with shoe polish around the same time period when he dressed up like michael jacksonth me now, april ryan, white house correspondent for american urban radio networks, and michael shear, white house correspondent for "the new york times." he also spent 15 years covering virginia politics, including the governor's office. april, this idea that northam says he shouldn't resign because he's not actually the person in the photo, but, oh, by the way, he did put...
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i had always liked michael jackson. actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moonwalk. >> are you still able to moonwalk? >> my wife says inappropriate circumstances. >> his wife appropriately shut that down, but there were so many people who looked at that, so many observers who said, what is he thinking? this doesn't display the gravity that it should, they question his judgment. did you make wider conclusions about that? >> yes, at that moment in time, again, it showed, in my personal estimation, that he doesn't quite understand how serious and how real this is, let alone the fact that he did admit some blackface by putting marker to his face by bringing back his thoughts of michael jackson. he was literally going to do the moonwalk at a press conference when we're talking about not only blackface, kkk robe, and in the backdrop of him last year dressing up as a slave owner. this is also coming off, again, the vista of what we saw in our city in charlottesville. it's just really difficult to see an
i had always liked michael jackson. actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moonwalk. >> are you still able to moonwalk? >> my wife says inappropriate circumstances. >> his wife appropriately shut that down, but there were so many people who looked at that, so many observers who said, what is he thinking? this doesn't display the gravity that it should, they question his judgment. did you make wider conclusions about that? >> yes, at that moment in...
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michael jackson?e seeing. >> i would say the moonwalk was really one of the first viral moments that affected rock history. the next week "thriller" started selling a million copies a week. >> i like michael jackson because he's bad, he knows how to dance. >> he's so sexy and so gorgeous. >> he's exciting! >> michael jackson is the man of the '80s. >> mtv starts to get pressure from cbs records, which was michael jackson's label. >> rock 'n' roll, in itself, was really the thing that broke a lot of rules. when you're very successful, you try to make your own rules occasionally. >> as the story goes, cbs essentially said we will pull every other artist we have on mtv if you don't play this. they had to be essentially blackmailed into doing it. ♪ it doesn't matter who's wrong or right ♪ ♪ just beat it >> he was the artist that mtv really needed. they didn't know they needed him, but boy, when we started to see those michael jackson videos, it was just unbelievable. then there was the domino effect. sudd
michael jackson?e seeing. >> i would say the moonwalk was really one of the first viral moments that affected rock history. the next week "thriller" started selling a million copies a week. >> i like michael jackson because he's bad, he knows how to dance. >> he's so sexy and so gorgeous. >> he's exciting! >> michael jackson is the man of the '80s. >> mtv starts to get pressure from cbs records, which was michael jackson's label. >> rock 'n'...
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[inaudible] >> i'm sorry, i couldn't hear. >> why would you decide to be michael jackson -- >> why did i dress up, i didn't realize at the time that it was offensive as i had since learned and knowing that, what i know now, i wouldn't have done it but at the time i wouldn't have done that. >> thank you so much, guys. >> hold on a second. well, right now i think it's important that we take one day at a time. i think that we will continue to collect information to -- to definitively prove in addition to my word that i'm not in that picture. [inaudible] >> y, as you know, there was a piece of legislation this year to make -- to make election day a holiday. it didn't pass but certainly in that discussion if election day were a holiday would we need to rid ourselves of a different holiday and that was part of the discussion to eliminate lee jackson, it's actually a 4-day weekend as you know on the friday with monday being martin luther king day. regarding taking care of sick children, you know, as i've said, i learned every day, i have taken care of literally thousands of children and their
[inaudible] >> i'm sorry, i couldn't hear. >> why would you decide to be michael jackson -- >> why did i dress up, i didn't realize at the time that it was offensive as i had since learned and knowing that, what i know now, i wouldn't have done it but at the time i wouldn't have done that. >> thank you so much, guys. >> hold on a second. well, right now i think it's important that we take one day at a time. i think that we will continue to collect information to --...
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is there a picture of him doing michael jackson with shoe polish on his face? would think at some point there are going to be some verifiable issues here that he's going to have to deal with. >> the michael jackson thing he admits to. >> right. >> without photographic evidence. >> for some reason, this picture was there and he never heard about it, that tells you everything you need to know because it means it was so remarkable no one would tell you about it. if someone put that on my page in college or in, you know, high school, my gosh. >> the lowest bar, at the very least, he does not have the ability to make a rational decision. and i would be. >> and later, those leaked presidential schedules, how little work time appears on them and how busy the white house claims the president really is no matter what the schedule says. details on that ahead. sts. you'll ask... what pain? with advil liqui-gels. ♪ ♪ this simple banana peel represents a bold idea: a way to create energy from household trash. it not only saves about 80% in carbon emissions... it helps reduc
is there a picture of him doing michael jackson with shoe polish on his face? would think at some point there are going to be some verifiable issues here that he's going to have to deal with. >> the michael jackson thing he admits to. >> right. >> without photographic evidence. >> for some reason, this picture was there and he never heard about it, that tells you everything you need to know because it means it was so remarkable no one would tell you about it. if someone...
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is there a picture of him doing michael jackson with shoe polish on his face? one would think at some point there are going to be some verifiable issues here that he's going to have to deal with. >> that's true. the michael jackson thing, he admits to. >> right. >> without photographic evidence. >> for some reason, this picture was there and he never heard about it, that tells you everything you need to know because it means it was so remarkable no one would tell you about it. i mean, if someone had put that on my page in college or in, you know, in high school, i mean, my gosh. there would be records of me, like -- >> the very -- the lowest bar, at the very least, he does not have the ability to make a rational decision. and i would be incredibly concerned if we're going into a legislative session and he's leading it, or he's the one that's making these decisions. i mean, i think it's very clear that he has to go. and then he can fix whatever problems he has, but this is his issue. he needs to fix this issue and allow virginia to continue to move on and move f
is there a picture of him doing michael jackson with shoe polish on his face? one would think at some point there are going to be some verifiable issues here that he's going to have to deal with. >> that's true. the michael jackson thing, he admits to. >> right. >> without photographic evidence. >> for some reason, this picture was there and he never heard about it, that tells you everything you need to know because it means it was so remarkable no one would tell you...
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he admitted he darkened his face to imitate michael jackson in a 1984 dance contest.nwhile, a separate 1981 yearbook from the virginia military institute has surfaced revealing northam was known by the racist nickname "coonman" as an undergraduate student there. northam has denied widespread use of the nickname, claiming two older boys called him the name for reasons he didn't understand. the controversy has sparked public outrage and calls across the aisle for northam's immediate resignation. on saturday, democratic house speaker nancy pelosi said northam should step down so virginia could heal and move forward. nearly every declared democratic presidential contender in the 2020 race has also called for northam to resign, as has the naacp and the virginia legislative black caucus. on sunday evening, northam reportedly convened an impromptu senior staff meeting ahead of the super bowl to gauge support from his staff for his continued leadership. lieutenant governor justin fairfax was reportedly not in attendance. fairfax is next in line to become governor of virginia
he admitted he darkened his face to imitate michael jackson in a 1984 dance contest.nwhile, a separate 1981 yearbook from the virginia military institute has surfaced revealing northam was known by the racist nickname "coonman" as an undergraduate student there. northam has denied widespread use of the nickname, claiming two older boys called him the name for reasons he didn't understand. the controversy has sparked public outrage and calls across the aisle for northam's immediate...
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in which i darkened my face as part of a michael jackson costume. i look back now and regret that i did not understand the harmful legacy of an action like that. >> jessica dean joins us in richmond. you were inside the session when the governor made that speech. he left no question about it. it's not me. how does he explain his uncertainty? >> he had gone from taking responsibility to saying it's not me and he tried to keep explaining that he saw the photo, that that was the first time he had seen the photo, he said allowed that's not me, but instead of saying that to the public from the get go, offered these two apologies last night. one written, one in video form, then came to the realization that that was not him. we can now add the dnc chair to the list of democratic organizations that are calling for the governor to resign. tom perez putting out a statement calling on the governor to resign and for the lieutenant governor to step up, become governor and lead virginia. justin fairfax has all eyes on him, he put out a statement that went on for
in which i darkened my face as part of a michael jackson costume. i look back now and regret that i did not understand the harmful legacy of an action like that. >> jessica dean joins us in richmond. you were inside the session when the governor made that speech. he left no question about it. it's not me. how does he explain his uncertainty? >> he had gone from taking responsibility to saying it's not me and he tried to keep explaining that he saw the photo, that that was the first...
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, first of all, who used black shoe polish in '84 to imitate michael jackson.ittance that you did use blackface, but not in that incident, it just didn't help today, it only added greater confusion. and that's why you saw the senior and the junior senator as well as the dean of the congressional delegation for the state of virginia say that they had seen enough and now it is time to move forward. and i've also got to say, i do think that people can make mistakes. during my campaign, i talked about for former felons, returning citizens, that you shouldn't be judged forever by your worst day. but you've still got to contend with that and those issues, before we're able to move forward. >> and you dealt with racism when you ran for governor of florida last year. there was that racist robo call, i remember, attacking you, that included monkey-like sounds. you also lobbed accusations of racism against your opponent. so i have to ask you, are you at all surprised by this? >> well, of course we're surprised. as i said, when i met governor northam, i understand it's be
, first of all, who used black shoe polish in '84 to imitate michael jackson.ittance that you did use blackface, but not in that incident, it just didn't help today, it only added greater confusion. and that's why you saw the senior and the junior senator as well as the dean of the congressional delegation for the state of virginia say that they had seen enough and now it is time to move forward. and i've also got to say, i do think that people can make mistakes. during my campaign, i talked...
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>> you know, i had no prior views about michael jackson. a special interest in jackson or anyone famous. i come from a background of making films about terrorism and crime. i came to it with a completely open mind. i certainly didn't want to stake my reputation on a story that didn't have a strong factual basis or that wasn't true. so i did look, you know, throughout the two years of making the film, i looked for anything that could cast doubt or independence mine wade and james' story. i found nothing at all. i found their stories to be consistent. i found their family's stories to be consistent with what they told me. >> were they paid for the documentary? >> they were not paid. they have no future past financial interests. >> and one of the criticisms i've heard is that these two knew each other and they got together with a lawyer and decided that they would -- because you came to them, right? they didn't come to you. >> yeah. this is a story i stumbled across. i was sitting down with a channel four executive in the uk for breakfast one
>> you know, i had no prior views about michael jackson. a special interest in jackson or anyone famous. i come from a background of making films about terrorism and crime. i came to it with a completely open mind. i certainly didn't want to stake my reputation on a story that didn't have a strong factual basis or that wasn't true. so i did look, you know, throughout the two years of making the film, i looked for anything that could cast doubt or independence mine wade and james' story....
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i had always liked michael jackson. i actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moonwalk. >> yeah, i mean -- >> you listen to that, and not only that, number one, 1984, not 1784. 1984. he does this. number one. and number two, he realized this was offensive during his campaign for governor driving around the state with an african-american aide who he described this to. in recent years realizing how offensive that is, that is tone deaf. >> what's fascinating if you talk to people who know him and who like him, they'll tell you, certainly before this and sort of sweet terms that he's from an earlier era. that has a different resonance now but he comes from an earlier time and place. from the eastern shore of virginia. a very rural, isolated part of the state. you know, he's 59, but in some ways, he's a little more dated than that. and i think he's trying to save himself there. and he just sort of talks himself into more of a hole by talking about michael jackson in that fashion. and in that room yesterd
i had always liked michael jackson. i actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moonwalk. >> yeah, i mean -- >> you listen to that, and not only that, number one, 1984, not 1784. 1984. he does this. number one. and number two, he realized this was offensive during his campaign for governor driving around the state with an african-american aide who he described this to. in recent years realizing how offensive that is, that is tone deaf. >> what's fascinating...
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in which i darkened my face as part of a michael jackson costume. i looked back now and regret that i did not understand the harmful legacy of an action like that. i am not ready to ask virginians to grant me the forgiveness for my past actions. i also do not fully expect that they will immediately believe my account of these events. right now i am simply asking for the opportunity to demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the person i was is not the man i am today. i took an oath to uphold this office and serve the people of this commonwealth to the best of my ability. as long as i believe i can effectively fulfill that task, i intend to continue doing the business of virginia. >> now while that speech was underway, democratic national chairman tom perez released a statement and he said this in part -- it's time for ralph northam to step aside and let lieutenant governor justin fairfax serve virginians as the next governor. joining us from the virginia governor's mansion is mike viqueira. on the surface some calmness and outside of that a lot
in which i darkened my face as part of a michael jackson costume. i looked back now and regret that i did not understand the harmful legacy of an action like that. i am not ready to ask virginians to grant me the forgiveness for my past actions. i also do not fully expect that they will immediately believe my account of these events. right now i am simply asking for the opportunity to demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the person i was is not the man i am today. i took an oath to...
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i had always liked michael jackson. i actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moonwalk. >> i know he's got a lot on his mind, but he's paying homage to michael jackson. he really likes him, but he can't remember his name. and let's all be grateful to the governor's wife, pam northam, for stopping him when he looked like he was considering demonstrating his moonwalking skills, his moonwalking prowess for reporters and the tv audience. watch this. >> are you still able to moonwalk? >> oh -- >> inappropriate circumstances. >> my wife says inappropriate circumstances. >> inappropriate. wow, that is the least of it. so the governor does remember putting on blackface as michael jackson, but he doesn't remember putting on blackface or kkk robes in his med school yearbook. and what about his picture in the virginia military institute yearbook, the one captioned with the racial slur coonman, an ugly word? and i hate that we have to use it. but you need to know the facts. >> there were two individuals, as bes
i had always liked michael jackson. i actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moonwalk. >> i know he's got a lot on his mind, but he's paying homage to michael jackson. he really likes him, but he can't remember his name. and let's all be grateful to the governor's wife, pam northam, for stopping him when he looked like he was considering demonstrating his moonwalking skills, his moonwalking prowess for reporters and the tv audience. watch this. >> are you still...
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but also saying he did once dress in blackface in the 1980s, as michael jackson. many asking, can he survive this? here's zachary kiesch. >> reporter: tonight, the demands for virginia governor ralph northam to resign reaching a crescendo. despite his claims that he's not either of the people featured on his own med school yearbook page dressed in blackface and kkk garb. >> i was appalled that they appeared on my page. but i believe then and now that i am not either of the people in that photo. >> yesterday was a pathetic spectacle by governor northam. >> reporter: the previous governor of virginia, also a democrat, saying northam has to go. >> once that picture with the blackface and the klansman came out, there is no way you can continue to be the governor of the commonwealth of virginia. >> reporter: more than a dozen other prominent leaders from his own party adamantly agree. house majority leader nancy pelosi saying he should "do the right thing." northam's press conference, intended to reverse his initial admission that he was in the photo, only adding to th
but also saying he did once dress in blackface in the 1980s, as michael jackson. many asking, can he survive this? here's zachary kiesch. >> reporter: tonight, the demands for virginia governor ralph northam to resign reaching a crescendo. despite his claims that he's not either of the people featured on his own med school yearbook page dressed in blackface and kkk garb. >> i was appalled that they appeared on my page. but i believe then and now that i am not either of the people in...
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i had always liked michael jackson. actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moon walk. >> are you still able to moon walk? >> my wife says inappropriate circumstances. >> saved by the first lady from further embarrassment there. joining me now, nbc white house correspondent jeff bennett in richmond and msnbc political analyst eugene washington columnist with the washington post welcome all. what is the latest from richmond? i know you had reported about a cabinet meeting and that the lieutenant governor had entered from a back or a side door to the state capital, and had not talked publicly yet. >> that's right, andrea. lieutenant governor justin fairfax was on the job this monday afternoon and he's presided over a senate budget meeting. on the other side of this capitol complex you have the governor with the cabinet and that followed among aides and senior administration officials of color. i am told the governor wanted to talk about his path forward and i am also told he left the meeting having ar
i had always liked michael jackson. actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moon walk. >> are you still able to moon walk? >> my wife says inappropriate circumstances. >> saved by the first lady from further embarrassment there. joining me now, nbc white house correspondent jeff bennett in richmond and msnbc political analyst eugene washington columnist with the washington post welcome all. what is the latest from richmond? i know you had reported about a...
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>> well, this isn't a film about michael jackson. a film about wade robson and james safechuk, the two little boys to whom this dreadful thing happened long ago. >> reporter: king sat down with the jackson family for their side of the story. >> reporter: why do you think they're coming forward now? >> money. >> reporter: it's about money. >> it's always been about money? >> did it not seem odd to you that your brother would share a bed or have slumber parties with young children? >> i don't know-- i can't say yes. >> reporter: you say sleepovers and watched movies. >> i grew up with it-- >> he was there. >> i grew up in it, so for me it wasn't odd. i think to the outside world, yes, i think it can be odd. i mean, i'm not oblivious to what it sounds like. but when you're actually there in that atmosphere, and you're around it, and you're watching movies-- >> with his kids, too. >> yes, with his kids. it's very innocent. but i think the fault of my uncle is he didn't have that bone in his body to look at it the other way. his naÏvetÉ w
>> well, this isn't a film about michael jackson. a film about wade robson and james safechuk, the two little boys to whom this dreadful thing happened long ago. >> reporter: king sat down with the jackson family for their side of the story. >> reporter: why do you think they're coming forward now? >> money. >> reporter: it's about money. >> it's always been about money? >> did it not seem odd to you that your brother would share a bed or have slumber...
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i had always liked michael jackson. i actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moonwalk. but then let me tell you what happened, alan. i have a very close friend who was my assistant during the campaign. i don't think he would mind me telling you his name, his name is seth opofayubowa. he really did a good job of communicating to me why that's so offensive. and it was actually during that conversation, i said, you know, seth, i put some polish on my face, i competed in a dance contest dressed up as michael jackson, and i said, i assume you probably would think that's offensive. he said, i would. and i said, you know what, seth, i appreciate you being open with me, i apologize for what i've done in the past and i can promise you i'll never do that again in the future. >> reporter: we spoke to other students at evms. there are four pictures on your page. did you choose all four of them, did you choose three of them? are you saying the last photo [ inaudible ]? >> there are three photos. if i could look
i had always liked michael jackson. i actually won the contest because i had learned how to do the moonwalk. but then let me tell you what happened, alan. i have a very close friend who was my assistant during the campaign. i don't think he would mind me telling you his name, his name is seth opofayubowa. he really did a good job of communicating to me why that's so offensive. and it was actually during that conversation, i said, you know, seth, i put some polish on my face, i competed in a...
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while my mother was, you know, next-door. >> the two met michael jackson under the age of 10. ocumentary leaving other men. they had to keep abuse a secret. in an exclusive interview with cbs news, jackson's family members told gayle king they only want one thing. >> anything they're coming forward now? do you think it's all about money >> it's always been about money i hate to say it. what it's my uncle. it's a most likely see a blank check. >> back in 1993, one of the men give a statement sing the singer never harmed him for case involving another boy. jackson face criminal charges a 2005, the other took the stand proclaiming jackson citizens. they criticize the filmmaker for knocking either side of the story >>> michael jackson's former home known as the neverland ranch back on the market for $31 million. it was first listed in 2015 for $100 million. the 2700 acre property in cinnabar county has now called the sycamore valley ranch. the warriors got together with some high school students in miami, they had a shootaround before tonight skin, the students and faculty members
while my mother was, you know, next-door. >> the two met michael jackson under the age of 10. ocumentary leaving other men. they had to keep abuse a secret. in an exclusive interview with cbs news, jackson's family members told gayle king they only want one thing. >> anything they're coming forward now? do you think it's all about money >> it's always been about money i hate to say it. what it's my uncle. it's a most likely see a blank check. >> back in 1993, one of the...
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he almost moon walked to prove that he did the michael jackson thing. get your year book you check out your page first. i find it hard believe that they didn't know something about this. it's fishy. i think his time is probably up. you know, tbhot a goo not a goor him. >> his comments were conscious shocking and this at the tail end of it. we've had a lot of viewers write in with their comments. your comments are pouring in. i think we have a pour of them. if we don't, we don't. we'll go to nem in a moment. confusion, everyone condemns the photo but a sense that the democrats are hypocrites for not addressing the radical stance that the governor took. >> meanwhile the democrats are looking ahead to 2020 as pete saying, a whole bunch of them fanning out from kirsten gillibrand, senator warren has been up in massachusetts, tulsi gabbard out in hawaii. and yet michael moore is jumping in saying wait a second, don't forget about alexandria ocasio-cortez. she's not old enough to run for president but moore is suggesting she's the leader of the democratic par
he almost moon walked to prove that he did the michael jackson thing. get your year book you check out your page first. i find it hard believe that they didn't know something about this. it's fishy. i think his time is probably up. you know, tbhot a goo not a goor him. >> his comments were conscious shocking and this at the tail end of it. we've had a lot of viewers write in with their comments. your comments are pouring in. i think we have a pour of them. if we don't, we don't. we'll go...
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he was empercent nating michael jackson in the mid '80s. give us a reminder, julian, where the world was in '84. >> yeah. look. by the 1980s, civil rights is very much alive and well. the year before, the nation and virginia had gone through a debate over making martin luther king's birthday a national holiday. virginia actually resisted. and the idea both of using black face was not widely accepted. it was controversial when it came up in the '80s. and certainly having a photo of that and someone in a kkk costume, whoever it is, whoever is in the photo, to have that on a yearbook page of yours with your name was not the normal thing to do in the 1980s and 1984. so this was controversial then and 2019 of a state that just went through charlottesville, this is traumatic today. there is no excuse of having that photo on your page, whoever you are, and the photo is now confirmed and makes it difficult to support him at this point. >> the governor says he is not leaving if he can continue to do good with the people of the commonwealth of virgin
he was empercent nating michael jackson in the mid '80s. give us a reminder, julian, where the world was in '84. >> yeah. look. by the 1980s, civil rights is very much alive and well. the year before, the nation and virginia had gone through a debate over making martin luther king's birthday a national holiday. virginia actually resisted. and the idea both of using black face was not widely accepted. it was controversial when it came up in the '80s. and certainly having a photo of that...
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that's not michael jackson. i know him. to any kid or anyone. >> reporter: the jackson family said robson is lying. during the trial, robson was the first who testified in his defense. jackson was acquitted of all charges. >> he said michael jackson never did anything inappropriate. >> reporter: private investigator scott ross said he interviewed him expentensively before being called as a witness. >> there was a reason he was put up first. we believed he was the most credible. >> reporter: if robson had been lying, the story would have fallen apart during cross-examination. jackson was found not guilty. over the years, robson consistently defended and praised jackson in multiple interviews and public appearances. >> over 20 years, talking about how michael helped his life, how he was a great person to him, and he was his mentor. just great things. >> reporter: but that changed in 2013 when robson told "today" that what he said under oath in 2005 was actually a lie. the truth, he said, was much darker. >> he sexually abused
that's not michael jackson. i know him. to any kid or anyone. >> reporter: the jackson family said robson is lying. during the trial, robson was the first who testified in his defense. jackson was acquitted of all charges. >> he said michael jackson never did anything inappropriate. >> reporter: private investigator scott ross said he interviewed him expentensively before being called as a witness. >> there was a reason he was put up first. we believed he was the most...
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he did not want to be the one, in his words, that harmed michael jackson. not believe him when he says that? >> i do not believe him when he says that, because we know our brother. michael wouldn't do anything like that. and then he waits until after the passing of michael, ten years later to come out in a statement? they're still in court with the estate. suing him for hundreds of millions of dollars. >> michael is not here to defend himself. >> so you think the only reason they're doing it is because michael is no longer here. >> of course. >> you don't buy that they wanted to protect him and that's -- >> no. >> no. >> wade's never protected anyone in his life. >> does the whole family feel this way? i've seen the comments from the brothers, but i haven't seen anything from your sisters. >> everybody feels the same way about this, of course. >> i think there is fear as well to put more energy to it and more eyeballs to it. that's why my aunt janet hasn't said anything because she doesn't want to make it any bigger. >> why do you think they're coming forwa
he did not want to be the one, in his words, that harmed michael jackson. not believe him when he says that? >> i do not believe him when he says that, because we know our brother. michael wouldn't do anything like that. and then he waits until after the passing of michael, ten years later to come out in a statement? they're still in court with the estate. suing him for hundreds of millions of dollars. >> michael is not here to defend himself. >> so you think the only reason...
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. 1984 michael jackson was on the victory tour.ommunity affairs there. i saw tens of thousands of white kids imitating michael jackson having on the "thriller" jacket and all, none of them had black face. '84 was the year that he won the primary that he was in school at virginia. you were mocking at a time of black advancement and you would put on black face and talk about it was hard to get it off? i think he should resign immediately. >> and what do you think he was not alone. these are frat boys, doctors, and they're going to work with poor people. >> i'm so glad you bring that up. that to me is the most disturbing point. when you look at black women's mortality rate, the fact that black women when they're going to deliver babies are more likely than white counterparts to die in the delivery room, and we want to understand why there is a racial gap there and understand these are medical students? we hold doctors and lawyers up to these unreachable standards and say this is the epitome of education and embassy lexcellen. one, the
. 1984 michael jackson was on the victory tour.ommunity affairs there. i saw tens of thousands of white kids imitating michael jackson having on the "thriller" jacket and all, none of them had black face. '84 was the year that he won the primary that he was in school at virginia. you were mocking at a time of black advancement and you would put on black face and talk about it was hard to get it off? i think he should resign immediately. >> and what do you think he was not alone....
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i had always liked michael jackson. i actually won the contest because i had learned to moon walk. >> are you stale able to moon walk? my wife says inappropriate circumstances >> inappropriate circumstances. >> he was going to do it. he was going to do the moonwalk. thank god his wife -- i'm telling you. he heard a mouthful if he went back home. >> it's just, again, you reflected on the state of virginia and history but what about your film? you did a film about this all those years ago, 2000, right? >> right. >> is anybody listening? how does this stuff happen today? >> because it never went away. it never went away. racism, racist imagery, all this stuff is ingrained in the dna of the united states of america. the very flag that betsy ross sewed, that flag -- it's sad because you think that we're moving forward. here's the thing though. i never believed in a post-racial society. when my brother put his hand on abraham lincoln's bible and took the oath, there's supposed to be a magical, mystical moment, boom, racism go
i had always liked michael jackson. i actually won the contest because i had learned to moon walk. >> are you stale able to moon walk? my wife says inappropriate circumstances >> inappropriate circumstances. >> he was going to do it. he was going to do the moonwalk. thank god his wife -- i'm telling you. he heard a mouthful if he went back home. >> it's just, again, you reflected on the state of virginia and history but what about your film? you did a film about this all...
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>>> "rolling stone" reports the estate of michael jackson is suing hbo for more than $100 million over its plan to air the controversial documentary "leaving neverland" next month. the film is about two men who say jackson molested and swore them to secrecy when they were children. the new lawsuit claims hbo is breaching a 1992 contract to not disparage jackson for the rights to air a concert film. hbo says it still plans to run the documentary. >>> the "los angeles times" reports a year-long opioid prescription investigation by federal drug agents led to the arrest of four doctors and other medical providers. they're accused of writing bogus prescriptions or selling painkillers and other drugs on the black market. the investigation targeted dozens of health care professionals in california, nevada, and hawaii. more than two dozen people identified as drug dealers were also arrested. authorities say 15 people who died from drug overdoses were linked to those targeted in the investigation. >>> california's "east bay
>>> "rolling stone" reports the estate of michael jackson is suing hbo for more than $100 million over its plan to air the controversial documentary "leaving neverland" next month. the film is about two men who say jackson molested and swore them to secrecy when they were children. the new lawsuit claims hbo is breaching a 1992 contract to not disparage jackson for the rights to air a concert film. hbo says it still plans to run the documentary. >>> the...
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. >> and in that press conference he also had what you could call the michael jackson explanation.d him talk about that? >> well, that was wholly unsatisfactory on any number of levels. first, he just admitted to doing blackface. whether in a yearbook or dance contest, did you it. >> he said he used blackface impersonating michael jackson at a party. right? >> no. it was a dance contest. >> oh. okay. >> and second of all, if you listen to what he said, he said he put the makeup on lightly because shoe polish is hard to get off. well, how did you know that? how did you know shoe polish was hard to get off your face if you'd never done it before? that suggests to me perhaps he's done it before, and that becomes even more dismaying, and when you add on to the fact in the yearbook referred to at coon man, leaves you speechless. >> one point in that press conference, too, where quite stunningly he was asked to do the michael jackson moonwalk and it was like he paused, thought about doing it before his wife intervened. >> yes. yes. of course, you know, i don't know what was going through
. >> and in that press conference he also had what you could call the michael jackson explanation.d him talk about that? >> well, that was wholly unsatisfactory on any number of levels. first, he just admitted to doing blackface. whether in a yearbook or dance contest, did you it. >> he said he used blackface impersonating michael jackson at a party. right? >> no. it was a dance contest. >> oh. okay. >> and second of all, if you listen to what he said, he...
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michael jackson. that's why i have pam with me. i had the shoes. i had a glove and i used a little bit of shoe polish to put on my cheeks. the reason i used a very little bit is because i don't know if anybody ever tried that but you cannot get shoe polish off. >> and resisted the temptation to moon walk during the press. >> inappropriate circumstances. >> my wife says inappropriate circumstances. >> he has struggled to explain his role in the production of yearbook which was published in 1 1984. it includes other classmates in black face. the press conference did not win him any new support including many renews calls for him to step down. despite his calls he is still signaling he has no plans to resign. it seems that decision will be his alone to make as the state's republican speaker made it clear impeachment was not on the table. >> obviously impeachment is a very high standard. i think that's why we have called for the resignation. we hope that's what the governor does. it would be less pain for everyone. >> and to be clear the controversy su
michael jackson. that's why i have pam with me. i had the shoes. i had a glove and i used a little bit of shoe polish to put on my cheeks. the reason i used a very little bit is because i don't know if anybody ever tried that but you cannot get shoe polish off. >> and resisted the temptation to moon walk during the press. >> inappropriate circumstances. >> my wife says inappropriate circumstances. >> he has struggled to explain his role in the production of yearbook...
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when he was talking about the michael jackson incident and he said, oh, we all know? no. none of us know what black paint can do -- shoe polish to your face, nor should we. he was looking at that floor considering moon walking. i didn't see anyone halfway remorseful in that. we know what his nickname was. i would love to cross examine him, and we know he submitted pictures to his yearbook, yet se says he never looked at the yearbook? that's all absurd, and that nickname is disgusting. >> he seemed to be a man in shock yesterday as well. what can they take away from this? >> first of all, you know, i think you asked the right question earlier which is could he have survived a democratic primary had he released this information? and the answer probably is no, but for all political leaders, republicans and democrats, you know, we're not perfect, but if you have this issue in your past, have a genuine, thoughtful conversation with a minister or a rabbi and put it out there and have a reflection and change of heart and for governor northam, here's the thing. you know, he does
when he was talking about the michael jackson incident and he said, oh, we all know? no. none of us know what black paint can do -- shoe polish to your face, nor should we. he was looking at that floor considering moon walking. i didn't see anyone halfway remorseful in that. we know what his nickname was. i would love to cross examine him, and we know he submitted pictures to his yearbook, yet se says he never looked at the yearbook? that's all absurd, and that nickname is disgusting. >>...
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at a dance contest. >> i dressed up in a, what's his name -- michael jackson, excuse me. it that's why i have pam with me. i had the shoes. i had a glove. and i used just a little bit of shoe polish to put on my cheeks. and the reason i used a very little bit is because i don't know if anybody's ever tried that, but you cannot get shoe polish off. >> reporter: then resisted the temptation to moonwalk during the heated presser. >> are you still able to moonwalk? >> inappropriate circumstances. >> my wife says inappropriate circumstances. >> reporter: northam struggled to explain his role in the production of the yearbook which was published in 1984 and contains several other racist and objectionable photos. including other classmates in black face. >> my life -- >> reporter: the press conference did not win him any new support, instead leading many to renew their calls for him to step down. despite his calls for resignation from every corner of virginia's government, northam is still signaling he has no plans to resign and seems that decision will be his, alone, to make, a
at a dance contest. >> i dressed up in a, what's his name -- michael jackson, excuse me. it that's why i have pam with me. i had the shoes. i had a glove. and i used just a little bit of shoe polish to put on my cheeks. and the reason i used a very little bit is because i don't know if anybody's ever tried that, but you cannot get shoe polish off. >> reporter: then resisted the temptation to moonwalk during the heated presser. >> are you still able to moonwalk? >>...
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you have to remember, in 1984 michael jackson did a huge victory tour and he asked me to head communityole tour. there were whites all over this country, over 30 cities imitating michael wearing the thriller jackets and the hat. >> and the glove. >> none of them wore black face. so if you put on black face, that was your initiative, governor. and you decided that for clearly mocking racial reasons. it made it worse than what they set up with the clan and so now we have on your home -- on your page in terms of your yearbook and you've added now that you found nothing offensive -- 1984, the year bill cosby has the biggest show, michael jackson biggest entertain over the year, jesse jackson won the virginia primary and you're acting like this is '44, i think it shows not only did he come out of a culture where racism was all right but he was all right and comfortable with. >> it do you want to too old that, karine? same issue? >> i totally agree. and in 1984 he was 25 years old. i presume he voted that year and knew that jeff rend jesse jackson was on the ballot. after watching that press
you have to remember, in 1984 michael jackson did a huge victory tour and he asked me to head communityole tour. there were whites all over this country, over 30 cities imitating michael wearing the thriller jackets and the hat. >> and the glove. >> none of them wore black face. so if you put on black face, that was your initiative, governor. and you decided that for clearly mocking racial reasons. it made it worse than what they set up with the clan and so now we have on your home...
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the lawsuit alleges hbo is profiting by airing a documentary that falsely claims michael jackson was rd to imagine a more direct violation of the non-disparagement clause. entertainment attorney domenic romano. >> the jackson estate must be thinking, look, we can't let this stand. we have strong economic interests in the reputation of michael jackson. we ket can't let documentarians go unchallenged. >> magical child adventure -- >> reporter: he says the estate faces a tough battle arguing the case. >> they're going to have to show that the statements that these accusers are making are false. and they're going to have a difficult time doing that given that they weren't in the room. >> reporter: in a statement thursday, hbo stood by the documentary saying, "despite desperate lengths to undermine the film, our plans remain unchanged. this will allow everyone the opportunity to assess the film and the claims in it for themselves." throughout his career, jackson repeatedly maintained his innocence and was acquitted of child molestation charges in 2005. years later, the film and the lawsuit
the lawsuit alleges hbo is profiting by airing a documentary that falsely claims michael jackson was rd to imagine a more direct violation of the non-disparagement clause. entertainment attorney domenic romano. >> the jackson estate must be thinking, look, we can't let this stand. we have strong economic interests in the reputation of michael jackson. we ket can't let documentarians go unchallenged. >> magical child adventure -- >> reporter: he says the estate faces a tough...
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now he's trying to blame michael jackson.even said he only put a little bit of shoe polish because everybody knows it's hard to get off your face. i actually didn't know that little tidbit. how did you know that? judge jeanine: the president's tweet maybe an hour ago, and it reads, ed gillespie who ran for governor of the great state of virginia against ralph northam must be seeing malpractice and dereliction of duty with regard to his opposition research staff. if they find that terrible picture before the election, he wins by 20 points. dan bongino said he received the picture in 2018 but couldn't confirm the and didn't publish it. why it didn't come into play in the election, who knows. if this wasn't an inside job to get rid of governor than after all of his infanticide comments. judge jeanine: i think the infanticide enough is enough to get rid of them. but it seems like this is a movement by the left across the country. new york lighting up the expires of the world trade center celebrating, calling it women's health. >>
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would remember it because he had worn shoe polish in a dance contest in 1984, dressing up as michael jackson. >> my belief that i did not wear that costume or attend that party stems in part from my clear memory of other mistakes i made in this same period of my life. that same year i did participate in a dance contest in san antonio in which i darkened my face as part of a michael jackson costume. i look back now, and regret that i did not understand the harmful legacy of an action like that. >> reporter: he continued with this anecdote about that night. >> i had the shoes. i had a glove and i used just a little bit of shoe polish on my cheeks, and the reason i used a very little bit, because i don't know if anybody's ever tried that, you cannot get shoe polish off. >> reporter: this stunning 40-minute press conference turned bizarre at times. at one point, a reporter asking northam if he could still moonwalk as he had in the 1984 dance contest. the governor appeared to consider trying to dance before his wife intervened. >> my wife says, inappropriate circumstances. >> reporter: the govern
would remember it because he had worn shoe polish in a dance contest in 1984, dressing up as michael jackson. >> my belief that i did not wear that costume or attend that party stems in part from my clear memory of other mistakes i made in this same period of my life. that same year i did participate in a dance contest in san antonio in which i darkened my face as part of a michael jackson costume. i look back now, and regret that i did not understand the harmful legacy of an action like...