. >>> michael, jen brought up a great point about democrats right now, in a lot of these states, they have better, better political athletes on the ballot in these states, because donald trump has worked hard to let's just call it what it is, i mean he's worked really hard to get a lot of crazy weirdos, freaks, idealogues, these hucksteres on the ballot, and it is so interesting, you know, we talk about ideology, we talk about economic trends, and at the end of the day, like reverend al, you have run for office, i've run for office, you walk into a room, and you know whether you own the room or not, you know if you're going to have to work hard or not, and candidates like fetterman, candidates like tim ryan, they're so much more attuned to that than say a dr. oz who lives in new jersey, and votes in turkey, and you know, jd vance who one day says i love san francisco, i hate san francisco, i love silicon valley, i hate, i mean when is this going to catch up with these people? usually at the voting booth, right? >> it does, and it has, and i think in large measure it will, i think thei

michael steele, thank you so much. gritty appreciate you being with us. i just want to ask, jenthat elise said she was looking closely in pennsylvania, that's gonna be a fascinating race. what's race are you looking at? >> michigan. i mean, i just -- i think that whitmer, if she wins, she can prove the concept of how you make your own weather, right? i think she has a very distinct brand. and at times, in michigan, that has been to her detriment. but she has been able to separate from biden more easily than others. i mean, i'm sorry to say it, but the presidential numbers are so low. democrats are able to separate from him, relatively easily. you need candidates that are just running the fast race that they can with the best, with the message that's going to work in their favor, whether they are a challenger, or incumbent like whitmer. but if she can come back, you know, tony everest may have a harder time in wisconsin in reelection. select in about a may have a harder time winning reelection. they haven't done that kind of work that she's done to really define herself, have her

holmes is with us now and what pastor michael jennings is saying after the ordeal.ou. >> all right, stray, driving while black, walking while black, golfing while black, swimming while black, napping while black, staying in an airbnb while black, sitting in a starbucks while black, bird watching while black. it has become part of our vernacular. we've talked about plenty of these stories. add to this now watering your neighbor's plants while black. that's what this pastor was doing and police were called on him and now we have this police body cam video that shows how he goes from literally a water hose to handcuffs in just a couple of minutes. >> i ain't did nothing suspicious or nothing wrong. >> listen -- >> told them i'm a pastor. >> sir. >> i don't want to hear you. you want to lock me up, lock me up. >> reporter: this newly released police body camera video shows the arrest of an alabama pastor who was watering his neighbor's plants. >> do what you got to do. go ahead and lock me up. >> reporter: pastor michael jennings was doing a favor for a neighbor who ask