kevin powell a boys journey to mann hood", and a senior fellow with the heritage foundation, and michael kay a foreign correspondent and former advisor to the u.k. ministry of defense. let me start with you kevin - for all of president obama's criticism of president bush, he has continued many of bush's national security policies - internet surveillance, military tribunal's, drone strikes and defence at guantanamo, what is the difference between these two? >> i can't defend some of the things he has done. i don't necessarily agree with them myself. he inherited a lot of things. we know that president bush's father put out a book na criticizes some things going on. we need to talk about the fact there are basic differences talking with folks, and, you know, not acting alone, which is something that occurs. >> one distinction is that they crossed a line, the bush administration, as far as we know, didn't cross, ordering a strike that killed a u.s. citizens without process. al-maliki. he might have a pass that george bush will not get. >> there has been a realisation during the period of the bu