and i believe there's -- >> speakers include michael ledeen, a critic who was working with opposition groups. we look at the prospect of human rights reform under current irony president -- current iranian president. >> let me start with you. what is your sense of what is going on in iran right now? particularly, the people think it is wonderful -- the president is a reformer. he is making things much better. 2009 uprising is over and done with. they're satisfied with what is going on. are they supportive of what is the weapons program? what do we know? >> when it comes to the source of our information, we need to remember iran is not like north korea. it is a country where censorship is a play with a press however if you are in iran, you have the opportunity to get information from a variety of media -- in spite of the fact that all those media are censored by the government. particularly, if we look at the smaller circulation magazines and journals, special economic newspapers, iran is just like america. most people do not read economic newspapers. the first thing you do is to read