. >> rose: money ball say movie based on michael lewis a book about the oaklandate threat-- athletic,l story about a manager on a journey to find out the true meaning of worth. nominated for best actor brad pitt, also one of the producers for money ball nominated for best picture, he and jonah hill talk about their roles with director bennett-- bennett miller and what it takes to make a winning team. >> hey, billy. i wanted you to see these player evaluations that you asked me to do. >> i asked you to do three. >> yeah. >> to evaluate three players. >> yeah. >> how many did you do. >> 47. >> one of our first conversations was these '70s films where the beast at the beginning of the movie is the same beast at the end of the movie. and they don't really change but the world around them changes, their perspective of the world around them. and became obsessed with that. sports never looked at it from the economic side. you think it's competition. you think it's fair playing field. and how does a small market team compete with the big market teams that buy all their talent it is an unfair

and it's a really interesting story that michael lewis saw in '02, saw this happening and got in there. >> jon: one of my favorite scenes is the scout, this guy is not handsome. she doesn't have confidence. look at his girlfriend. that's the way they're making their decisions. >> that came-- 30 scouts came and we had a wok shop and they gave up their day to kind of school us on it. what the guy actually said is, "ugly girlfriend." and a guy said, "what does that mean?" and he said, "bad eyesight." >> jon: was that the best day having the scouts around? >> oh, it was a great day, and in fact, a lot of them ended up in the scenes. those are real baseball insiders. they were really gracious to come in and play ball with us. >> jon: gracious to come in? that's the greatest day of their lives. those guys spend their day like trolling fields in the midwest. to be able to come in and do that must have been a lot of fun for them. some of the guys like bart how, it's tough because those guys aren't so happy about the way it's portrayed. >> fair enough. >> jon: bull butt also the as didn't win.

long game and a strategy you know i have been saying from the very beginning that occupy you know michael lewis quite famously said that occupy has justice on its side they have the facts on their side they have history on their side they have the public on their side it only takes a couple of these these individuals who are not denounced by the way by occupy as a whole to ruin and really taint the entire movement well and that's that's the question is what point i remember one of the first times that there were guys dressed in black and with hoods and things and they it seemed like they were all men. this was a month or so ago in oakland smashing windows and there was some footage of it and along with the footage this was stuff that the. mainstream media didn't pick up but you could see it on you tube and you know the movement knew about it along with them especially the windows there were also all these people from the oakland occupy movement standing along the street shouting at them stab stab don't do that and they were completely ignoring them i mean people were physically and these people

. >> rose: michael lewis wrote a profile of you. >> yes. >> for vanity fair. >> indeed. >> rose: what was the story? >> well, michael wrote money ball and he wrote money ball about billy beane, he was that man -- >> rose: in the movie. >> and a beautiful movie. >> rose: yes. >> so he did that. now, that book was reviewed by a couple of friends of mine who were well-known behavioral economists i mean, richard say lohr, they reviewed michael's book for the new republican. >> rose: right. >> and they said, michael wrote -- a magnificent piece he doesn't seem to know the love of that is money to psychologists that actually if you apply mechanical or statistical system to prediction you will do better than what is called clinical prediction. so an algorithm would beat scouts if you give decent information to both. the algorithm will was the information better than the scouts will. and so that got -- >> rose: if that is true why hasn't -- i mean, why isn't it proven to be true since -- why haven't people adopted it and -- in other words, an algorithm that was being used by billy beane's tea

michael lewis's book, was it accurate? it that you hope that somebody in your position years ago, that's remarkable. >> it is a remarkable story. >> what's the one thing you wanted to take away from your book? >> just if you put your mind to it, you can do anything you want to do. first when i wrote this, if it sells 1,000 copies and reaches one person who purchases the book, it will be a success. it has done thousands and thousands of times what i thought it would do. it's through so many people. just them taking things and earning from it, get something out of it and hopefully getting them the drive to succeed. >> you know, he wrote this thing when he was there. you know what should read this? it will inspire them to pick themselves up off the floor and do better next year. i think it would be good if tom brady and giselle read this together. they can read it together. book club. >> then they can do an e-mail circle. >> e-mail circle and prayer requests to read this book. they too can beat the odds next year. >> i talked

we await that, joining us this hour, or panel karen finney and msnbc political analyst michael steele, and matt lewissenior contributor to "the daily caller." but first we want to hit the vegas strip where of the campaigns are get ready for the news. peter alexander is following the romney campaign. ron mott is with the gingrich campaign. romney has been afforded secret service protection now. i must tell you, watching television from the sofa, he looks more presidential. there's a subliminal effect i think that takes place with this. >> reporter: yeah, i think it definitely does add valuable, his campaign may say it makes him look more presidential, but it also poses a big challenge. we traveled with them the last six weeks, and i noticed yesterday when they were in sparks, nevada, it's more challenging for him to get up close and personal with his supporters, as they gather to hopefully shake hands, hand over a baby to take pictures with. it causes the potential for grandmothers to get nudged accidentally. for a campaign that's so meticulous -- recognize when we flew in on their charters one of the