lind. it's an embarrassing moment for the country and the president, you can't come here, and that's what's likely to happen, right? >> reporter: that's right, michael. and it's going to be a very humbling message for washington to receive, and that message is essentially we are doing much better than you. the rate of infection in the united states is 6 to 7 times higher than that of the european union. and that will be the top of the list when these criteria are discussed today in brussels, the 27 member states will be meeting over the weekend. each eu ambassador took the draft list to their respective countries to review. some of those countries like france, for example, have made their lists public, and just to give you an idea, france's list only had 14 countries that would be allowed in. this is a very exclusive group here. but it is for good reason. this is a hard-won battle for the european union to fight this coronavirus. tens of thousands of lives have been lost. millions of dollars in businesses lost. people under lockdown for perce months. they're simply not willing to put all of these sacrifices at risk. this is a health decision, eu dip