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as of january 6th 2021, a clear and present danger to american democracy. >> former judge, jay michael luttigringing the alarm for a while about the fact that twice impeached, quadruple -- judge luttig ruled to lower crumpling that finds that trump engaged in an insurrection by inciting the riot at the capitol on january six, 2021. also found the constitutional impeachment of holding office after engaging in a rebellion did not apply to the office of the presidency. while taking place to borrow trump in the 2024 ballot. the danger of trump has banded together to form a legal scholar group, society for the legal -- in the op-ed to the new york times they write, quote, we need an organization of conservative lawyers committed to the foundational constitutional principles we want all agreed upon. the primacy of american democracy, the sanctity of the constitution, and there will evolve. joining me now former federal judge of the united states court of appeals of the fourth circuit judge jay michael luttig. judge, it is an honor to have you on the show. my guess my first question to you would be

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that's where we start the hour with former federal judge michael luttig. happening this week in courtrooms around the country. that seems to have been put in motion for the argument you were making publicly this summer. >> thank you, nicolle, for having me with you this afternoon. it's a pleasure. the proceedings and hearings going on across the country this week, next week and the weeks that follow are going to address literally the most pressing constitutional issue of our times. that is whether under the constitution of the united states of america is donald trump disqualified from holding the office of the presidency again as a result and as a consequence of his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. the question under the constitution -- we're talking about the 14th amendment, section three, as you read, is whether or not the former president engaged in an insurrection or rebellion against the united states constitution. the question is not whether he engaged in an insurrection or rebellion against the united states of america or the auth

michael luttig came out very strongly -- >> he was the one that talked about and wrote the different things and came out in the hearing, yes. >> he came out today and said that while he agreed with the factual parts of the judge's decision, he feels very strongly that the president is an officer of the united states and that that part of the judge's decision was incorrectly ruled. a leading conservative law professor, who has studied it in great depth reached the same conclusion so we think there's a lot of weight of opinion on the other side of this one and a real shot to see that go the other way, particularly given that ruling supported in so much fact that donald trump did incite an insurrection. >> so based on that, i mean, this is colorado. already been some litigation in places like minnesota and michigan, they did not have a trial. procedural issues kept them from resolving it fully. will you bring litigation in other states? there are 50 of them. >> the first thing that we are focused on doing is getting a win in colorado and that's going to be the next step. we think we got

you heard it here first neil katyal and judge michael luttig, a legal dream team, say they are ready and willing to join forces to argue this 14th amendment case before the u.s. supreme court. that would be epic. >>> coming up for us one of the breakout patriots to emerge from the ashes of january 6th, harry dunn. and later my beloved and dear incomparable colleague rachel maddow, and the lessons from our nation's past that were very nearly lost to history that rachel says we need more than ever right now. don't go anywhere. d more than ever right now don't go anywhere. announcer: try tide power pods with 85% more tide in every pod. who needs that much more tide? everyone's gonna need more tide. it's a mess out there. that's why there's 85% more tide in every power pod. -see? -ah. i'm adding downy unstopables to my wash. now i'll be smelling fresh all day long. [sniff] still fresh. ♪♪ get 6x longer-lasting freshness, plus odor protection. try for under $5! ♪ ♪ ♪ we're building a better postal service. for more on-time deliveries. and easier, affordable ways to ship. so you can delive

michael luttig, a conservative judicial expert and former and judge said today with my colleague nicole not going to be a state court thing, this will go to the supreme court, and they are the ones will decide whether trump can be on the about or not? >> i will leave it to experts. i want to be him, and we have beaten him. his best day was in 2016, and then he lost in 17 in some of the governors races. he lost an 18, and the midterm election. he lost the white house in 20, and the senate, when he kept the house. in 22, we kept the senate, and the red wave was avoided. we beat his candidates in special elections. he's a loser, and i am happy to be him again. i was asked to testify in the case. i told a story of what i experienced on january six. i do personally believe he engaged an insurrection. bur it's up to the judge to decide what that means. i think democrats should be confident that we can beat this guy again. we can bury trumpism, and when we do that, because democracy the best chance of writing a new chapter for america and coming out of the dark place that he has taken us for s

there was a trio of respected conservative lawyers, george conway, retired federal judge jay michael luttig, and former congresswoman barbara comstock, all of whom call attention to this problem within the legal profession. they write that many of their conservative colleagues appear to have been led astray, and they are loved by it. in fact, they are loud by, the owing crowd of reckless fraud and conman willing to subvert the constitution, and long established constitutional principles for the whims of political expediency. the actions of these conservative republican lawyers are increasingly becoming the new normal, in quote. now, from its very inception, i was extremely skeptical of the recent efforts to use the 14th amendment to try and disqualify donald trump from the ballot. the reason why was, beyond the legality of it, i understood, as i want you to understand, that even if those efforts had been successful, you are only getting rid of donald trump, you are not getting rid of trumpism. it is treating the symptom, and not the problem. and that is the root of what we are dealing with

week, a trio of respected conservative lawyers, including george conway, retired federal judge michael luttig, and former congresswoman barbara comstock, called attention to this very problem in the legal profession. they write that many of their conservative colleagues appeared to have been led astray and they're alarmed by it. writing, quote, the growing crowd of drifters, frauds, and conman willing to subvert the constitution and long estaished constitutional principles for the whims of political expediency, the actions of these conservative republican lawyers are increasingly becoming the new normal. now, i've been skeptical of recent efforts to use the 14th amendment to disqualify donald trump from the ballot because even if those efforts are successful, it doesn't solve the problem. see, you are only getting rid of trump, not getting rid of trumpism. that's the root of the issue that we're dealing with right now. the movement that this is true of lawyers are proposing is one step closer in the right direction. it's an active effort that places the responsibility of defeating trumpism at

the retired conservative federal judge michael luttig and harvard's laurence tribe. we will talk about the 14th amendment. i hope that you will join us. that is tonight's last word. the 11th hour begins now. d. >> tonight, defendant donald trump back on the attack. what monday's hearing could mean for his rhetoric amid new warnings about what is at stake in 2024. and growing momentum to push george santos out of congress but members of his own party. then, from near fistfights in congress to president biden on the world stage, it has been quite a week. michael beschloss is here to put it on perspective, as the 11th hour gets underway on this friday night. greetings, everyone, i am symone sanders townsend, in for stephanie ruhle. donald trump's divisive and potentially dangerous rhetoric is about to be tested in court. monday morning, a federal appeals court will weigh his requests to lift a partial gag order and posed by judge tanya chutkan who is overseeing the election interference case in washington d.c.. this afternoon, judge chutkan denied the former presidents

the retired conservative federal judge michael luttig and harvard's laurence tribe. is tonight's last word. the 11th hour begins now. d. >> tonight, defendant donald trump back on the attack. m

two of the most revered legal lines of our time, harvard's laurence tribe, and the judge david michael luttig declare that the constitution prohibits trump from ever being president again, based on section three of the amendment. since then, there's been movement in court in multiple states where efforts have sprung up to enforce that 14th amendment. and this ruling of colorado is particularly interesting, because the opinion goes further than any other judges have been willing to venture so far. the headline, out of colorado, will be that trump succeeded in remaining on the ballot. but a closer reading of the ruling reveals that this is far from a victory for the former president. the ruling reads in part quote, the court concludes that trump acted with the specific intent to incite political violence and directed at the capitol, with the purpose of disrupting the electoral certification. but then the ruling turns to the matter of section three of the 14th amendment. section three reads as follows, you've heard me say this many times, so if you're there, you n say it with me. quote, no perso

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michael luttig and george conway and barbara comstock, thank you for being on. >>> we have live pictureshe stand. he has attended a great deal of this specific trial, this civil trial, this $250 million civil trial against him. he didn't have to be there. he didn't have to sit there and watch it, but he showed up because this one really gets to him. today he must show up. today he must testify and answer questions. we'll be following as the proceedings begin and have a live report coming up from the courthouse. >>> by the way, the publisher of mark meadows' book is suing him for nearly $2 million over false statements about the 2020 election. the legal action is in response to an abc news report that meadows received immunity for his testimony to a grand jury called by special counsel jack smith. meadows reportedly told smith's team and jurors he repeatedly told trump in the weeks after the election that the allegations of significant voter fraud were baseless. in its lawsuit, all seasons press says meadows violated their agreement regarding false statements. the publisher singles out a

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