joining us now, scott hubbard, professor of aeronautics at stanford university, and michael mandel, chief economic strategist at the progressive policy institute. >> welcome to you, gentleman. >> thank you. >> glad to be here. >> susie: scott, let me begin with you. was the shuttle program worth it? >> the impact of the shuttle program has been significant and mixed. on the one hand, it gave the u.s. unquestioned leadership in space for 30 years. it launched the hubble space telescope and serviced it. it carried out construction of the space station. but it also was high risk. we lost two crews. and we learned it's very expensive to operate. >> susie: did we get our money's worth? what do you think? >> i think the economic impact was far less than expected. if you go back what was supposeed to happen, we were supposeed to have manufacturing in space, and the amounts were in the multiple billions and none of that happened. we've been going through diminishing expectations and diminishing expectations. in the end, i think it turned out to be the wrong road. >> susie: you know, mike. the pro

say 17-year-old tyler hadley on the right murdered his parents with a hammer, his close friend, michael mandell on the left said he took this picture in hadley's home. mandell tipped them off to the murder. he told the station in west palm beach, florida hadley confessed to him about killing his father, blake hadley and his mother, mary jo hadley. >> after he told me, i didn't believe him. he'd been my best friend forever. he said if i looked i could see signs. i looked on the floor, i could see blood and that's when i went around back and looked in his parents' bedroom. >> that bedroom is where they found the body covered with furniture, and bloody towels. >> there seems to be head trauma and torso trauma. >> as the door opened, there was a large amount of blood and blood stains on the bedroom floor and sheets. mandell said that's what he saw. >> i saw bloody sheets piled everywhere. i saw broken pictures with blood on them. and i looked down and saw his dad's leg. >> reporter: mandell identified as mm told police on saturday that he stated he was going to kill his parents. m.m. did not take h