of the eu foreign representative or ashton and after that press call really with the iranians michael mann is the eu spokesman had a press conference and let's hear what he had to say. >> we hope that iran will come with constructive and concrete proposals today. we look forward very much to seeing their ideas. we are on our side ambitious to move forward quickly. we hope we will have two very productive days. we have come here with a sense of cautious optimism and a great sense of determination because we believe it is really time now for tangible results. >> there you are james, that is a rather typical eu statement covering all bases but they are optimistic and there does seem to be a mood of optimism because as we just talked about this diplomacy is moving faster than we thought during two days of talks. >> yes, and i think you have to put all of this into context. there are difficult issues that have to be resolved about iran's nuclear program and if iran can enrich uranium and they are very technical, detailed discussions and one western diplomate said, yes, there is a detailed techn