and so, sir michael marmot, thank you so much for this.is has been a great conversation for me to be part of, and you have reinspired me, and i think that we will look forward to whatever is the next chapter in what you are working on. >> guest: thank you very much. >> host: so thank you very much. >> guest: it's been a pleasure. >> host: pleasure. >> that was "after words," booktv's signature program in which authors of the latest nonfiction books are interviewed. watch pa

. >> host: so, michael marmot, it's a pleasure to have you to speak about your book the health gap. you've written are out of the social determinants for some time and i wanted to start by reading a quick quote from the end of the book but i think it gets us off to a good place. this political damage of health creates health inequities. such disempowerment may take different forms in the low, middle and high income

and so, sir michael marmot, thank you so much for this. this has been a great conversation for me to be part of, and you have reinspired me, and i think that we will look forward to whatever is the next chapter in what you are working on. >> guest: thank you very much. >> host: so thank you very much. >> guest: it's been a pleasure. >> host: pleasure. >> that was "after words," booktv's signature program in which authors of the latest nonfiction books are interviewed. watch past "after words" programs online at booktv.org. >> now on booktv we want to introduce you to university of wisconsin professor or jordan ellenberg. professor ellenberg, what do you do here? >> guest: i'm a professor of mathematics, i teach math to big kids, little kids, all kinds of people. >> host: you also write books. "how not to be wrong." wrong."mathematics is not settled, what do you mean? >> guest: well, be it were settled, i mean -- >> host: i thought math was certainty, math was form laic, math said this, one plus one equals two at all times. >> guest: well,

. >> host: so sir michael marmot, you have written extensively on the social chairman of health for a long time. i wanted to start by reading a quick quote from the end t

. >> host: so, michael marmot, it's a pleasure to have you to speak about your book the health gap. you've written are out of the social determinants for some time and i wanted to start by reading a quick quote from the end of the book but i think it gets us off to a good place. this political damage of health creates health inequities. such disempowerment may take different forms in the low, middle and high income countries but the just distribution was similar. your book is about health. it's not specifically about health care. and it's about equity. can you tell us a little bit about what this means and why you decided to write this book now? >> guest: they run the two words health and care together. i spend very little time talking about health care in the book because what i say it is when people get sick they need access to high-quality health care. but it's not a lack of healthcare that caused the illness in the first place. a lack of access adds insult to the injury of getting sick in those places. so, i'm very much pushing the idea that although healthcare is a vital issue

ords" michael marmot on "the health gap." governor wilder discusses his .", "son of virginia he was elected as the first african-american governor. toi had the opportunity learn what was going on. that started me. i had a good law practice. as a matter of fact, i had a great law practice. politics was the last thing i wanted to get involved with. , all weekend,v every weekend on c-span two. >> "washington journal" continues. host: joining us now is michelle former general of the u.s. air force, here to talk about the case of bowe bergdahl. good morning. before we go far into it, talk about your role as a judge advocate general, especially with a court-martial. guest: everybody who is court-martialed in the united states military has opportunity nothave, free of charge -- just based on your salary or your means, but everyone has an assigned defense counsel, free of charge. the jags, as we call them, are the one to provide that counsel. host: when a court-martial takes place, is it might what we see in a civilian court. are there parallels? what are the differ