josh gerstein, senior white house reporter for politico and michael mcfaul, former u.s. ambassador to russia, which makes him a better-than-average expert on russia. welcome and good evening to all of you. julia, i'd like to begin with you. what is your number-one take away from this document we have printed here today? it's like what we used to call the phone book of a medium-sized u.s. city. >> that's right, i can remember some i don't know some phone books, brian. this is obvious that even when mueller turns out the lights and closes up the special counsel's office we are living in what may be the new normal. we're going to continue to see interference primarily from russia and they lay out all the ways they can do it. all the ways you can see they can sow discord from both sides. what i think has to be taken together is that report that also came out today from the intelligence community saying that you should be aware of other meddling campaigns from russia and they say china and iran, but what i want to really clearly point out is that we have yet to see evidence o

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michael mcfaul, former u.s. ambassador to russia. ambassador mcfaul, always good to talk to you. >> thanks for having me, joy. >> so i want to go back and start with the manafort piece of this. you know, before he was associated with the trump campaign, paul manafort did have that experience in ukraine. this is not an unknown area to him, this idea of interference. what do you make of the fact that he -- he has given such fulsome cooperation. who do you think he puts the most risk with the things he might know? >> as you were just discussing, the sheer number of hours that they are spending with him suggests that he knows some things. otherwise, why would they be spending all that time? it's right. paul manafort has been in that world. he has been dealing with russian oligarchs, ukrainian oligarchs. people closely tied to putin. i've known about him for years, well before 2016 in the work i used to do both in the government and as an analyst. so he can pull on those threads of who might know whom, and who might have ordered these cert

the russian side is already making this so perhaps that's why us former ambassador to russia michael mcfaul the said that the biggest losers if tramples out all will be american european allies and indeed we've heard something coming hours of europe as well for example french president emmanuel mccrone called the i.n.f. treaty key to european stability and security and he wasn't alone the announcement by the us that it's going to withdraw from the i.m.f. accord is regrettable the i.m.f. agreement has been an important pillar of our european security architecture for thirty years for us in europe it's of great importance we call on the u.s. to consider the possible consequences to believe that the u.s. and russia need to remain engaged in constructive dialogue to preserve the treaty and to ensure. to ensure its cool and verifiable implementation which of course is crucial for europe's and global security well john bolton is seen as the key poor courage championing in favor of scrapping the deal well we'll see if his stance really stands here and more school and whether or not indeed it will

advisor to form a excuse me i have to say the former ambassador of the united states to russia michael mcfaul has said and his words what i called by the president of france a mineral mccrone who said that the un a treaty is key to european stability and he wasn't the only voice in this quiet about the announcement by the us that is going to withdraw from the i.m.f. accord is regrettable the i.n.f. agreement has been an important pillar of our european security architecture for thirty years for us in europe it's of great importance we call on the u.s. to consider the possible consequences they believe that the u.s. and. russia need to remain engaged in constructive dialogue to preserve the treaty and to ensure. it to ensure its cool and verifiable implementation which of course is crucial for europe's and global security. so right now it looks like time will determine and conversations that the united states to have with its partners are said to determine whether washington will be indeed shooting its european allies in the need. more to come to moscow tomorrow for now though if you go to our

really outweigh the what russia has to concede and so for example the former ambassador to russia michael mcfaul has said that he loses if the united states pull out of the deal will be u.s. european allies and indeed they have reacted for example a french president a mineral mccrone has called the on a treaty key to european stability and he was not the only voice in this quiet after. the announcement by the. us that is going to withdraw from the i.m.f. accord is regrettable the i.m.f. agreement has been an important pillar of our european security architecture for thirty years for us in europe it's of great importance we call on the u.s. to consider the possible consequences they believe that the u.s. and russia need to remain engaged in constructive dialogue to preserve the treaty and to ensure. it to ensure its cool and verifiable implementation which of course is crucial for europe's and global security. so ironically as you've heard some factors are pointing out that the united states could really be shooting their allies in the foot level but of course john bolton's visit was preplanned l

>> russia, the former ambassador, michael mcfaul, obama's ambassador to russia, had a very interesting./russian relations. the administration seems to be pursuing a pretty sensible policy on russia. it has tightened sanctions. it has given the ukrainians some help. the only thing is the president of the united states does not seem to agree with his administration's policy. have you ever seen something like this where the president is going in one direction and the policy in another? >> i do think what is interesting, we have both been involved in decision making systems. the history of this country as we know how to make decisions. i teach about all of this at georgetown. the decision making process simply does not work. the president goes and does his own thing. then somebody says, he meant to say. then somebody -- he disagrees with that. i do think that he does see some kind of kinship with putin and the russians are trying very hard to undermine our democracy and to separate us from our allies. i think in many ways trump is almost a gift to putin in terms of trying to explain why sh

former ambassador michael mcfaul. >>> msnbc headliners offers an in-depth look at vladimir putin sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. that's tonight's last word. i'm ali velshi. >>> the breaking news tonight, he's been caught, the feds got their man arresting a suspect for sending over a dozen bombs to prominent americans including two of our former presidents. and this is the van he drove rolling propaganda, pro-trump, anti-cnn targets superimposed over clinton and obama and michael moore and others in the cross hairs. the fbi director making it clear nothing about this was a hoax. >>> the president tonight praises law enforcement right before blasting the media as his rally crowd jeered cnn and booed at the mention of two of the democrats who were targets of the bombs. steve schmidt is here with us tonight to talk about what we're witnessing and where this episode leaves us as a country. as the 11th hour gets underway on a busy friday night. good evening once again from our msnbc headquarters here in new york. day 645 of the trump administration, and it brought further proof that you

former ambassador michael mcfaul. >>> msnbc headliners offers an in-depth look at vladimir putin sunday. that's tonight's last word. i'm ali velshi. >>> the breaking news tonight, he's been caught, the feds got their man arresting a suspect for sending over a dozen bombs to prominent americans including two of our former presidents. and this is the van he drove rolling propaganda, pro-trump, anti-cnn targets superimposed over clinton and obama and michael moore and others in the cross hairs. the fbi director making it clear nothing about this was a hoax. >>> the president tonight praises law enforcement right before blasting the media as his rally crowd jeered cnn and booed at the mention of two of the democrats who were targets of the bombs. steve schmidt is here with us tonight to talk about what we're witnessing and where this

ambassador to russia michael mcfaul who served as a point person for the russia reset during the obama administration and ambassador to russia for 2012-2014. during mcfaul's time as ambassador to russia, the kremlin unleashed its hybrid warfare playbook against him. they announced him as an nemg and had the security services follow his family. the kremlin also employed a disinformation campaign against him that accused him of being a pedophile. the kremlin was using these active measures in an attempt to instill fear in him and others that they could be pilled or jailed for doing the work of the united states government. the united states and western countries more broadly must understand that these attacks are not random. they are part of a pattern, a doctrine of hybrid warfare that is being spread across the globe. we need to understand that sass nations, filings -- that assassinations, filings, threats and intimidation are taxes that putin is using to achieve foreign policy goals and that these activities are harming our national security. for instance, "the new york times" reported