host: michael mckenna.ngs up an interesting, correct point. no matter how you structure the next transition in energy, you will have a law of toxic materials in batteries, solar panels, that will have to go somewhere. we are creating ourselves a series, the necessity of having a significant increase in hazardous waste. we will have to dispose of. it is a problem, nobody talks about it, nobody talks about the front end of the supply chain either whether it is child mining in the democratic republic of congo or whether it is slave labor in china helps build the batteries, solar panels, and it is past time folks were in favor of that and have some reckoning and talk about this seriously. guest: quickly i would say the issue with batteries as we can recycle these batteries, they do not just go into the ground. we can get the special minerals that we need out of them. as far as wind and solar, i winds noah little bit about this. i wins are getting more than half of its electricity from wind turbines helping to k