don't forget, lobear was put out of business because michael milkin was indicted separately from that. the enron case went out of business which was later overturned. as bertha said, it clearly looks like, in this instance, if they don't have substantial information that steve cohen traded outside information, they will put the business up which is mostly owned by steven cohen. >> what ripples do you think there will be in the market? >> i don't think there will be. i think we would have seen them already. one doesn't have to worry about large-scale liquidating positions at sac. they do have a quantitative trading operation, but they run with probably, i would say, the industry average. they're not a 17 or 20 times leveraged operation where you're going to see margin calls and things get wiped out because of this type of thing, or other hedge funds in their positions. >> do prime brokers stay with them? because they can't trade if they don't have the prime brokers. >> they can't trade certainly on a leveraged basis. as jim carl and cramer were discussing this morning, i'm sure you can