michael, you have no slips? >> no speaker cards for this item. commissioner moranving on, first of all, a word on the agenda. i think we will end up having to skip around a little bit. let me just say what my intent is. on the regular agenda, the public hearing on hetch hetchy -- first of all, it was noticed for 1:30, so we cannot proceed before then. also, later in the agenda, we have a workshop on the budget for next year and a suggested rate policy. it would make sense to have that discussion first. my intent would be to move that took after that. in order to accommodate that, i will call the budget workshop item no later than 3:00, to make sure that we are all here for that discussion. we also have two items from mr. chang, and i would give him a choice. i do not want to have to have him necessarily stick around to the end of the meeting. depending on what he would like to do on that, we could consider both items 10 and then item 13 at the beginning of the regular calendar. so we are kind of shuffling as we go, but i think that should probably get the job done.