in texas we have the michael morton case. for 26 years he was in texas prison and he had to jump through all the hoops, six years the prosecutor and the district attorney obstructed the dna testing and finally, they had now actions taken against him by the state bar which is great. one of them had to leave the country to find work. same guy who cursed me out in the legislature, but anyway, but the bottom line is this guy was testifying and chairman asked him aren't you bitter having been in prison with everything, he said i've had a long time to get over it. so it's even a broader issue beyond the death penalty, of, in fact, prosecutors withholding evidence. withholding evidence from the defense, even with the grand jury process not giving the grand jury the whole information including -- >> you had talked about cost as well. i hear also it's a different things about how the death penalties is more expensive than incarcerating a person for life because of the appeals process and so on. what's the truth of these different comp