earlier we spoke with michael muller, a former senior security policy analyst in the office of the secretary of defense. and he thinks that the lack of evidence undermines the claims made in the article. i've read the cnn report, and once again, it's remiss in providing any details. it does not provide any firm data on espionage or even sabotage. and that has been the main concern for years in the defense department toward the hallway, equipment. if you're not going to be show specificity or give details, and you're only quoting so called reliable sources which can in that case, to be from intelligence that automatically is regarded as a reliable source of the journalism world. and that can be very, very damage. and you don't know what the motive is of that, of that official. and in this case, they're not being transparent in terms of providing why they feel. while way technology is, is of concern damages the credibility of the report itself. and over to the u. k. now where the tory leadership race is heating up with the 6 weeks still to go, the 2 remaining condensers. a contenders are campa