concurs of a former senior security policy analyst in the office of the us secretary defense, michael mullis, total guard c. that's the, let's be planned to use captured 3rd freezes, leverage in negotiations with russia. that's due to feel and i think he's delusional piece is involved in wishful thinking. because the reality is that why that was, it was indeed a surprise incursion. reality is that many, most of those troops have been around with that either killed or, or taken prisoner to say that he's going to take that territory and try to increase others, i think, is a wishful thinking on this part. and it's a studies just delusional. he has no way of holding onto it if he thinks is going to make a mosque up and, and come to the negotiating table. i think um, president clinton has made that very clear that it's that it's non negotiable and that there will be no negotiation until the ukrainians are gone. and when you look at what its strategic implications in value was extremely limited. and you have to question what the motive was, because there's no way that they can continue to keep the