galaxy digital founder and ceo michael novogratz is here. to talk crypto first, and then we can talk about all sorts of other things but we went through what some people were describing as a crypto winter, and we seem to have come out of it. is that real or is that a head fake >> i think it's real listen, the crypto bubble, i think part of the reason it crashed was that everybody wanted to launch a coin was launching the new bitcoin. 3m was the better bitcoin. everyone had a version of bitcoin, and so you had supply grow exponentially and at one point regulators got nervous now i think you're seeing bitcoin really having established itself as a star value. it won that lane there's lots of other parts of the crypto universe, but bitcoin has won the lane of store value, which is hard to do. you know, there's really only one other store value -- gold -- where you're worth something just because you're worth something. almost everything else, you're worth something -- like uber shares are going to be worth something because people are using it,