. >>> la familia jackson estuvo amigable con los medios, y el juez encargado del caso, michael pastor

judge michael pastor's courtroom but right now they have not begun. i can give you a live look what is going on outside. you can see a number of people here that generally follow a jackson-type case. we saw the same type of people coming in from all over the globe to support michael jackson when he was on trial in santa maria a few years ago. you have a number of people who have come here to support dr. conrad murray the man who is on trial for involuntary manslaughter. when dr. murray was entering the courtroom about 15 or 20 minutes ago, that a woman that was sitting down waiting for one of the six open seats, she actually stood up and tried to approach dr. murray to speak to him, and the sheriff's deputies stepped in and physically pushed her aside to allow conrad murray to pass by. once again they were supposed to have begun here at least 15, 20 minutes ago. still have not begun. we don't know what the delay is for. opening statements are for today. a couple of interesting things on the witness list for the defense conrad murray is on the list. we

my father was a pastor and currently is and practiced this form of discipline that michael pearl is advocatingk "to train up his child." that could mean that our spanking sessions and i refer to as beating sessions could last 15 minutes to several hours at a time because basically these pastors believe that a child needs to have no will of their own. so they continue to administer discipline until a child is completely dossile in a way they show no negative emotion. that's the goal. >> all the pastors say we're not calling for abuse of a child. this can be misused by bad parents out there that who act out in anger and are irresponsible, but that's not what they're calling for? >> michael pearl says he does not advocate anyone spanking a child in anger or being out of control, and that's difficult to explain to the you said of the ifb. the pastors are not advocating losing control and beating a child to death. these pastors are advocating a very systemic form of punishment that outside of their community would be referred to as abuse, inside the community it's called spiritual spanking. so that

my father was a pastor and currently is and practiced this form of discipline that michael pearl is advocatingp his child." that could mean that our spanking sessions and i refer to as beating sessions could last 15 minutes to several hours at a time because basically these pastors believe that a child needs to have no will of their own. so they continue to administer discipline until a child is completely dossile in a way they show no negative emotion. that's the goal. >> all the pastors say we're not calling for abuse of a child. this can be misused by bad parents out there that who act out in anger and are irresponsible, but that's not what they're calling for? >> michael pearl says he does not advocate anyone spanking a child in anchor or being out of control, and that's difficult to explain to the you said of the ifb. the pastors are not advocating losing control and beating a child to death. these pastors are advocating a very systemic form of punishment that outside of their community would be referred to as abuse, inside the community it's called spiritual spanking. so that's -- it's a

my father was a pastor and currently is and practiced this form of discipline that michael pearl is advocatingbook "to train up his child." that could mean that our spanking sessions and i refer to as beating sessions could last 15 minutes to several hours at a time because basically these pastors believe that a child needs to have no will of their own. so they continue to administer discipline until a child is completely dossile in a way they show no negative emotion. that's the goal. >> all the pastors say we're not calling for abuse of a child. this can be misused by bad parents out there that who act out in anger and are irresponsible, but that's not what they're calling for? >> michael pearl says he does not advocate anyone spanking a child in anchor or being out of control, and that's difficult to explain to the you said of the ifb. the pastors are not advocating losing control and beating a child to death. these pastors are advocating a very systemic form of punishment that outside of their community would be referred to as abuse, inside the community it's called spiritual spanking. so

. >> all these pastors say look, we're not calling for abuse of a child. calling for. >> michaelthat he does not advocate anyone spanking a child in anger or being out of control. and that's what's really difficult to explain to the outside of the ifb. because the ifb pastors are not advocating losing control and beating a child to death. these pastors are advocating a very systematic form of punishment that outside of their community would be referred to as abuse. inside the community it's called and when we hear of parents who kill children in our country we think of parents who lost control completely. and then it ended in the death of a child. but these parents are making a conscious decision to beat a child for several hours at a time because it's something that's embedded within their belief system in the ifb. >> you run a web site called freedom from abuse.net where you try to bring together people who say they were victims of abuse at the hands of their parents who believed they were following biblical rulings. but i mean, plenty of parents believe in some form of corpora

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michael father said softly. i want you to know. we were sitting on the porch of my newspaper office, father and i. use the former pastor of sacred heart church in flint. father was now retired but still volunteering doing work that the project, helping out the poor and volunteering at my alternative newspaper the flint voice. living in downtown flint i'd stopped going to massachusetts six years prior, so father george was the closest thing i had to a priest and i very much believe in the central tenets of the faith to love one another, to love your enemy, to do unto others as you would want them to do to you. i agree that one had a personal responsibility to assist the poor, the infirm, the imprisoned and the look down upon. but i wasn't much in favor of the churches edicts when it came to many issues including ones that hurt people or make other sacrifices citizens like women or use the fires of hell to scare people about sex. i enjoyed my weekly and monthly meetings with him. and i would even attend mass in some of the churches where he conducted it. he became my de facto pastor. but now he wanted to tell me somethin

michael leader, -- my co-leader. i just want to tell my chairman of the cbc that back, by pastors to not wait for people to die that goodngs can happen. the pastor is the president of a senior development corporation. he is a professor at a state college. he succeeded clayton powell at senior baptist church. i just try to be his partner because his shoes were too big for both of us. thank you for coming down here. and on the democratic side, and nancy pelosi. it has been exciting. i see gretchen morton. i know i am missing a lot of people. i hope you give me an opportunity to make up for this. this goes beyond the trade bill's some 60 years ago. our ambassador for the united states of america. thank you for being here. and my staff. where is george henry? put up your hand. jeff, anna. wave. without you, ok. [applause] it is all a big team. i hope that i am here to thank all of you and that you recognize i have been so blessed. marty, there he is. told you i would make it to st. john's law. you did not believe me. i'm not answering questions about the ethics committee. [laughter] i can wait to see how the "in your post"