simpson, scott peterson, michael jackson, timothy mcveigh, a quick verdict except in o.j. simpson is very bad news for the defendant and i think that a lot of defense attorneys that we've talked to over the last several days and weeks would concur with the fact that this does not appear to bode well for derek chauvin who by the way is 44 years old and if convicted on all of these things, unless the sentences run concurrent, it's one after the other, then you're talking about the fact that he could walk out in eight, nine, ten years. >> neil: amazing, i had forgotten about his willingness to go ahead and plead to the third-degree murder charge back in the beginning of all of this. thank you very much, mercedes is on the phone right now, what do you read into this, the quick nature of this, all of the other things you've been hearing, the verdict that we are supposed to hear any minute now. >> most defense attorneys will tell you that if you've got a quick turnaround when the jury is deliberating it is not good news for the defense. so a lot, you can see that from a lot of d