it was in that context i got to know michael phleger. >> okay. how did he become the senior pastor? >> good question. [laughter] >> in 1981, mike was very discouraged because as i said, he could get nowhere with father paylor, the new pastor. about three weeks before christmas of 1981, father paylor was eating breakfast, and he dropped dead. now, you're not supposed to laugh at that. [laughter] it was the will of god obviously, and it was sudden, unexpected. he had had a couple heart attacks previous to that, but nobody expected that, so at that point, mike phleger was the only other priest in the place, so cardinal cody appointed him as temporary administer which is the normal thing to do so mike was feeling a certain amount of oh, maybe i can do something in this very short time, a short window before they appoint a pastor. he was 31 years old at the time, couldn't do much, and he tried to. i could tell you a number of stories that happened at father's funeral, but i'm not going to say that. already it's in the book. [laughter] the book covers all the things that i'm not telling y