just stunned that this administration came in and did what it did. >> well, let me go back to michael powell reporting this. this michael russo guy who was one of the defendants in the original 43-count indictment, he comes forward and tells somebody -- he gets quoted telling a colleague, "don't worry. the governor's going to save us." and then subsequently the attorney general steps in. as i said, i used the term bigfooted, knocked out the indictments, all 43 of them. it sure looks like somebody has a friend in trenton. >> it certainly feels like that, chris. you look at the sheriff, that is the one who hired russo, was relatively -- i mean, exchanged a lot of e-mails with the lieutenant governor. one of the fund-raisers for the governor was also questioned in this case because he had gotten sort of an illegal i.d. from the sheriff. and that fund-raiser was -- actually was a pretty big friend of the governor's, political friend of the governor's. yes, it's one of these things you put your hand all around the foot of the elephant, and it sure looks like an elephant. >> sure looks like a lot

just stunned that this administration came in and did what it did. >> well, let me go back to michael powellng this. this michael russo guy, who was one of the defendants in the original 43-count indictments, he comes forward and tells somebody -- he gets quoted telling a colleague, don't worry, the governor is going to save us. and subsequently, the attorney general steps in. as i used the term big footed the prosecution, knocked out the indictments, all 43 of them. it sure looks like somebody has a friend from trenton. >> it certainly feels like that, chris. you look at the sheriff that is the one who hired russo was relatively -- exchanged a lot of e-mails with the lieutenant governor. one of the fundraisers for the governor was also questioned this case, because he had gotten sort of an illegal id from the sheriff. and that fundraiser actually was a pretty big friend of the governor's, political friend of the governor's. yes. it's one of these things. it's kind of like you put your hand all around the foot of the elephant, and it sure looks like an elephant. >> it sure looks like a lot o

michael powell set it up. it's planet hillary. it up on the screen there. >> i think he said it better than you guys. >> how do you react when you hear what senator paul said? >> first of all, both bill and hillary have been in the public eye for such a long time, i really do believe that that is in the past. meanwhile, hillary has proven herself over and over and over again. >> hillary clinton won't have to answer for this. >> no, look what hillary did. she's a great senator. she was liked by both sides. she worked hard. and she did what a new senator was supposed to do and passed laws for new york. secondly, as a secretary of state she brought diplomacy back into the arena. she did -- i works on something called the new start treaty. hillary was the one that got that going and got it done at a time when the russians weren't even allowing us to land our planes in russia. >> here's an issue though. >> around sanctions. that was incredibly important to get to the point where we are today. she has done a great job. and she is differ

. >> i want to bring in michael powell who's been covering this closely. michael, i'm going to direct this to you because i understand why you won't be commenting on things that have not been disclosed. politicker nj have acquired a list of named that are the subject of subpoena. talk about kevin o'dowd's role. >> he is the chief of staff. right? he's also the man who is about to become, by the way, the next attorney general, seemingly, until his name was pulled back. i mean, this is a powerful man within this. and pulls that circle very close to the governor. >> this is a very important point, the governor in his press conference in responding to this, i believe, said he had two direct reports. there were only two people that talked to governor christie and that kevin o'dowd is one of them. another one of them is charlie mckenna, i believe, the chief counsel. he's also in this politicker nj story, reported to be the subject of a subpoena. so you're now dealing with the two people that talked to the governor directly. >> yes. and it's always been hard to be

michael powell who is now president and cta says the biggest thing that will change our space and the aereo case. we will see potentially the supreme court take it up and find out whether aereo's service is legal. they use dime-sized antennas to capture signals and send it over the internet. fox says if they will not pay us a royalty payment we will become a cabe -- cable -- channel. >> which is unlikely to happen but it is nice talk. what this aereo case is just a continuation of the continuing clash between old laws and new technology. the copy write act doesn't allow you to take the signals and copy them, but with these dime-sized antennas they are saying they are following the letter of the law. each person has an antenna and they argue whether the length doesn't matter. it is going to be interesting what the supreme court decides. if they approve the technologies, i think we will see a lot more continued competition and it might spur other broadcast companies to get more involved into the internet space >> and aereo raises sharp questions about how we consume video content. the c

. >> the head of the ncta michael powell and dick wiley and read hunter testified on the hill about changing the communications law and whether the '96 law needs updating and if the '34 law needs updating. would you be game for a big overhaul? >> i think it is obvious it isn't keeping pace. the fcc should calibrate to keep up with the times. i think we have reached the point given the intro modal competition we are seeing, the fcc needs to take action and bring regulations into the 21st century and get rid of the furlou furloughs saying they need to be treated differently. >> couldn't that lead to more regulation of wireless company and pushing broadband in as a common carrier? >> you know my own views as to what the fcc should do. i would hope congress would recognize wireless innovation is the hallmark of that part of the industry and that is a direct result of the agreement in 1993 to let the thrive without the standards you saw in '92. >> let's talk about the hsh discount. the deadline was this week. you and a bunch of commented saying it should not eliminated without looking at the owne

michael powell on the intel committee yesterday he was taking legal advice over the current appearance of the panel to push up lower on allegations surrounding the penalty points system the dollar is a serving member of the carnegie appear before the cole commission next week because the commissioner and the accounts committee are divided on the issue the commissioner is getting legal advice on the monster which he was arrested in toronto today. i thought i could respect for the accounts committee said that yesterday said that they do extremely important work for the citizens of this country and i certainly want don't want to do anything to calm her there in that situation what you know of i have my own backyard the two day watch. some committee members do have very strong views on the issue. it sends every wrong signals at this point it's an impression even recreate since passing back to steve connor were seeking to stifle whistleblowers from getting their hands in the budget committee would be extremely robust about the time. i'd assert our right to hit the switch to us but there was

. >> host: well, the head of the ntca, ncta, michael powell and michael copps and dick wily and reed hundt are all testifying this week as well on the hill about changing the communications law and whether the '96 law needs updating, whether the '34 law needs updating. would you be game for a big overhaul of communications laws at this point? >> guest: i think without question the communications act at this point is not keeping pace with where the marketplace is. as a general principle, what i've tried to advocate for my own perch at the fcc is that the fcc should do what it can to calibrate its regulations to fit the times. if a statute requires us to do the contrary, then we are essentially stuck. so i think we've reached the point now given the intermodal competition that we see that we, the fcc, needs to be able to take action to bring its regulations into the 21st century, to reduce the silos, for example, that require us to treat telephone companies and cable companies and wireless companies differently even though they're competing to provide the same service. so i think an up

michael powell, former chairman of the fcc and now president and ceo of ncta several years ago said the biggest thing that's going to change our space is the aereo case. and we will see potentially the supreme court take this up and find out one way or the other whether aereo's service is legal under copyright law. aereo uses dime-sized antennas, as kate noted, to capture broadcast signals and retransmit them over the internet, and this has really changed the dynamic of the pay tv marketplace. fox has said, well, if aereo is not going to pay us a royalty payment, we'll just become a cable channel. we will cease distributing our content over the air. so -- >> guest: which is unlikely to happen. >> guest: right. >> guest: but it's nice bluster. it's nice talk. what this aereo case is, is just a continuation of the continuing clash between old laws and new technology. the copyright act doesn't allow you to take all the signals and copy them and multiply them, but with these dime-sized antennas, aereo argues that it's actually following the letter of the law. each user who signs up for thei

michael powell, former chairman , said a couple of years ago that the biggest biggesthat is go -- the thing that is going to change our space is the area case -- the aereo case. we could see the supreme court pick this up and find out whether or not whether aereo's service is legal. aereo uses dime-sized antennas in order to capture broadcast signals and transmit them over the internet, and this has really changed the dynamic of the pay-tv market place. fox says that if aereo is not going to pay a royalty payment, they will just become a cable channel. they will cease distributing .ontent over the air >> which is unlikely to happen, but it's nice bluster. it's nice talk. is athis aereo case is continuation of the continuing laws and new old technology. the copyright act does not allow you to take signals and copy them, but with these dime-sized antennas, aereo argues it is following the letter of the law. each user that has signed up or their service has an antenna. they argue that the link of the antenna, whether it is to your roof or through the internet to somebody else's roof, doe

michael powell, former chairman of the fcc several years ago said the biggest thing that is going tohange is the area case. we will see potentially the supreme court take this up and find out whether the service is legal. what the fcc does this year is going to be determined by a brand-new, very dynamic chairman. he used to head the wireless association and the cable association and he is not afraid to come out swinging. >> one of the biggest issues on the hill right now for the tech world is surveillance reform. 2013 was a big year for surveillance, although snowden leaks. that will keep coming. by the end of january, president obama will address his review groups' recommendations. some, they are likely to accept. there are some that are getting more contentious and will lay out where the white house stands on these issues. >> the technology and telecommunications issues facing lawmakers in washington this year, monday night on "the communicators" at 8:00 eastern on c-span2. >> the deadline is approaching for c-span student video competition. issues the most important congress shoul

michael powell, former chairman abc, said the biggest thing that will change our space is in the aereoase. we will see -- potentially the supreme court take it up and find out one way or another if the service is legal under copyright law. what the fec doesn't this year is going to be determined to buy a brand-new, very dynamic chairman with tom wheeler. we use of the wireless and cable association host up he is not afraid to come out swinging. >> one of the biggest issues is going to be surveillance reform. for was a big year surveillance with the snowden leak. that will continue comic. we have been told. by the end of january, president obama will address. they'd put forward recommendations. some of the white house are likely to accept. on top of that, some that are getting more contentious and will lay out where the white tent -- white house dance. >> the communication issues facing lawmakers this year on monday night at 8:00 eastern. "q&a," with-span, dr. david bobb talking about his book that focuses on the life stories of five prominent figures from american history. after that,

michael powell who wrote "the new york times" story deserves a tremendous amount of credit for locatingors, because that's what makes the case. don't have to take our word for it. listen to these four jurors who were questioned separately and say that mcgovern did a meticulous job, and that the evidence presented was overwhelming. there was unanimity among the grand jurors that serious crimes had taken place. and with a two-page letter, the attorney general basically dispaira dispairaged, not only the work of mcgovern but also the grand jurors. i think that's why they're upset. >> here's a guy, this guy rousseau, who's the assistant to the sheriff, who's indicted. and his reaction is, no problem. chris christie will take care of it. >> that's a pretty remarkable statement. indicates a lot of confidence on his part. >> and he was right, parentally. . >> again, all i can do is look at that statement and say it's really surprisinging to me that anyone would have had that kind of cock-sure attitude. >> well, it turns out he had nothing to worry about. thank you both very much for joining us

michael powell, former chairman of the sec, a couple of years ago he said that the biggest thing thatis going to change this date is the case -- change the state is this case. we will see, potentially, the supreme court take us up and find out, one way or the other, if this service is legal under copyright law. year willey do this be determined by a brand-new and dynamic chairman named tom wheeler. he is not afraid to come out swinging. of theuld say one biggest issues on the hill right now for technology is surveillance reform. this will keep coming. the leaks will keep coming, we have been told. by the end of january president obama will dress the review group recommendations. some of the recommendations are likely to be accepted by the white house, but others are getting more contentious, laying out exactly where the white house stands in these issues. >> technology and telecommunications issues facing washington this year, tonight on "the communicators," at 8 p.m. eastern on c-span two. >> "washington journal" continues. host: on mondays we talk about your money. particularly toda

now turn to chairman michael powell, who was nominated by george w. bush, and served as chairman of the fcc from 2001 to 2005. during mr. powell's chairmanship they saw a significant increase in the deployment of broad band to american homes as well as convergence of services toward the development of broadband -- toward the bundles of services common today. chairman powell thank you for joining us today, and please go ahead. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and as a former chairman, i'm happy to be sitting around with a bunch of these other chairmen, offering as best we can our historic perspectives on how to prudently go about rewriting the act should that be your intention. and i'm pleased to be with ranking member eshoo again and all the distinguished members of the committee. i think it goes without saying and all of us will say it in different ways that the world has changed quite radically from 20 years ago in terms of markets and services but don't ask us, ask your kids. ask them to name three broadcast networks, if you will, ask them to do without

mentioned caller michael powell, the former chair of the fcc and is now head of the national cable and association. he has an op-ed piece in "usa today" and he writes about this. ask, is the internet so heavyhat you need injection of rules and regulations to fix it? answer is no. guest: we are going down the path on the internet that we radio, cable,nd television, more consolidation, controlled by a few and gatekeeping. this ought to be a golden age of media. it ought to be a golden age of reporting and journalism. exactlyeaded and just the opposite way. we've got the tools but we will not use the tools but i think my friend michael is wrong on that.

mentioned caller michael powell, the former chair of the fcc and is now head of the national cable and association. he has an op-ed piece in "usa today" and he writes about this. ask, is the internet so heavyhat you need injection of rules and regulations to fix it? answer is no. guest: we are going down the path on the internet that we radio, cable,nd television, more consolidation, controlled by a few and gatekeeping. this ought to be a golden age of media. it ought to be a golden age of reporting and journalism. exactlyeaded and just the opposite way. we've got the tools but we will not use the tools but i think my friend michael is wrong on that. host: michael copps served in robert 2001-2011 and mcdowell served 2006 until just this year, 2013. and both have appeared on c-span's "communicators" program on a regular basis. this weekend, current fcc .ommissioner senior republican here's what he had to say about the decision on the open internet rules. [video clip] >> to be sure, there are some who argue there should be invested back to the future solution to internet regulation. that

michael powell will am a former chairman of the sec several years ago said the biggest thing that is going to change our stay is this case. will see potentially the supreme court take this up and find out one way or another whether the service is legal under copyright law. what the sec does will be determined by a brand-new very dynamic chairman in tom wheeler who used to head the ctia and is not afraid to come out swinging. >> i would say one of the biggest issues will be surveillance reform. 2013 was a big year for surveillance. the leaks will keep coming we have been told. by the end of january president obama will address the review group recommendation. ise of which the white house likely to accept right off the bat. some will be more contentious. >> the technology and telecommunications issues facing lawmakers this year. tonight at 8:00 eastern. nancy reagan was the first sitting first lady to keep the united nations and the first to address the united nations. of my young friends out there, life can be great. to see it in the vivid colors that life gave us as of gift to the ch

appreciate your comments and staying out all night for the hearing and now we turn to the chairman michael powell who was nominated by george w. bush and as the chairman of the fcc from 2001 to 2005 and from abroad and to american homes as loves the convergent services towards the development of broadband, towards the bundles of services thank you for joining as the former chairman i'm happy to sit around with a bunch of these other chairman how to prevent illegal about rewriting the action that was intentioned and i am pleased to be with a ranking member again and all of the distinguished members of the committee and the world has changed quite dramatically from 20 years ago don't ask your kids that ask them to name the three broadcast networks if you will asking them to put the phone down at dinner and what reaction degette i think you will be convinced it's largely because enormous revolution in the network architecture and in the form of the internet which was unleashed a form of competition heretofore that wasn't really possible and we should remember it gave birth to a host of companies and

michael powell has a piece in "the new york times" about michael grimm.fter keeping company with mobsters, the company speaks their language. he is a former marine and fbi agent. he infiltrated the gambino crime family. his target was peter gotti, brother of john gotti. a reference to the journalists's family.ith the gotti it seems to have left the congressman with a liking for a mob style chat chat. connected hims" to a felon in texas. reportedyork times" in 2012 that a close friend happen to have close ties to a gambino number. times" has a piece -- threat by staten island lawmaker as to a reputation as hot tempered. talking about several incidents where the congressman lost his temper with other folks. politicians, a tea party activist in an interview in 2011. got not an activist and suggested a boxing match. another time, he vowed to knock his teeth out. getting your thoughts on behavior.n grimm's should he face an ethics review? washington are saying he violated house rules over 23. -- house rule number 23. joining us on the phone is robert costa, po

mentioned caller michael powell, the former chair of the fcc and is now head of the national cable and association. he has an op-ed piece in "usa today" and he writes about this. ask, is the internet so heavyhat you need injection of rules and regulations to fix it? answer is no. guest: we are going down the path on the internet that we radio, cable,nd television, more consolidation, controlled by a few and gatekeeping. this ought to be a golden age of media. it ought to be a golden age of reporting and journalism. exactlyeaded and just the opposite way. we've got the tools but we will not use the tools but i think my friend michael is wrong on that. host: michael copps served in robert 2001-2011 and mcdowell served 2006 until just this year, 2013. and both have appeared on c-span's "communicators" program on a regular basis. this weekend, current fcc .ommissioner senior republican here's what he had to say about the decision on the open internet rules. [video clip] >> to be sure, there are some who argue there should be invested back to the future solution to internet regulation. that

now turn to chairman michael powell, who was nominated by george w. bush, and served as chairman of the fcc from 2001 to 2005. during mr. powell's chairmanship they saw a significant increase in the deployment of broad band to american homes as well as convergence of services toward the development of broadband -- toward the bundles of services common today. chairman powell thank you for joining us today, and please go ahead. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and as a former chairman, i'm happy to be sitting around with a bunch of these other chairmen, offering as best we can our historic perspectives on how to prudently go about rewriting the act should that be your intention. and i'm pleased to be with ranking member eshoo again and all the distinguished members of the committee. i think it goes without saying and all of us will say it in different ways that the world has changed quite radically from 20 years ago in terms of markets and services but don't ask us, ask your kids. ask them to name three broadcast networks, if you will, ask them to do without

contend in a more serious way in which they -- than which they .ave in the past host: michael singh was an assistant to: powell and condoleezza rice and for the national security council, former professor at harvard and now managing director of the washington institute for near east policy. marcel is joining us from virginia. caller: i have a few comments to make. first is a question. me if you read "new yorkkerry's that the-ed article iranian's program can only be seen as one heading towards a nuclear program because of the way it is established. he points out that no country would want to have the kind of program they have if they really wanted to use nuclear facilities because in purposes one year iran can produce as much uranium that is refined as is produced in europe for sale in five hours. iran's interest superiorityse its or its view that it has superiority in that part of the middle east through the use of this particular kind of program. marcel is referring to an op ed written by william perry and a nuclear expert based in california. it is a point widely accepted amongst iran and nuclear nuclear tha

now turn to chairman michael powell, who was nominated by george w. bush, and served as chairman of the fcc from 2001 to 2005. during mr. powell's chairmanship they saw a significant increase in the deployment of broad band to american homes as well as convergence of services toward the development of broadband -- toward the bundles of services common today. chairman powell thank you for joining us today, and please go ahead. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and as a former chairman, i'm happy to be sitting around with a bunch of these other chairmen, offering as best we can our historic perspectives on how to prudently go about rewriting the act should that be your intention. and i'm pleased to be with ranking member eshoo again and all the distinguished members of the committee. i think it goes without saying and all of us will say it in different ways that the world has changed quite radically from 20 years ago in terms of markets and services but don't ask us, ask your kids. ask them to name three broadcast networks, if you will, ask them to do without

michael cohn is a kid in a candy store when you stick him in a book store. >> mom, i know where it is. it's in here. >> reporter: at least twice a week he visits places like powell'sooks. always with the enthusiasm of a child waking up to presents on christmas morning. this is michael's playground. >> he would stay here all day. >> if i could. >> if he could. is that true? yeah. >> reporter: like many of his favorite stories. >> why do you like reading so much? >> reporter: the range behind his passion is a mystery. he won't hesitate to share his opinions on the books he reads. >> give it a thumbs up. >> reporter: michael is budding book critic. he puts together videos where he reviews stories usually with the help of friends and family. the litary siskels to his ebert. >> authors started coming to us and asking to us review their books and he's very flattered when that happens. he doesn't always give them what they want but it's fun. >> reporter: michael's favorite books centers on animals. >> "curious george." >> reporter: he helped his mom write a book about a dog named lucy. you see lucy was the name of their golden retriever who died of cancer. >> it's been a

contend in a more serious way in which they -- than which they .ave in the past host: michael singh was an assistant to: powellondoleezza rice and for the national security council, former professor at harvard and now managing director of the washington institute for near east policy. marcel is joining us from virginia. caller: i have a few comments to make. first is a question. me if you read "new yorkkerry's that the-ed article iranian's program can only be seen as one heading towards a nuclear program because of the way it is established. he points out that no country would want to have the kind of program they have if they really wanted to use nuclear facilities because in purposes one year iran can produce as much uranium that is refined as is produced in europe for sale in five hours. iran's interest superiorityse its or its view that it has superiority in that part of the middle east through the use of this particular kind of program. marcel is referring to an op ed written by william perry and a nuclear expert based in california. it is a point widely accepted amongst iran and nuclear nuclear that iran

powell and i am the property owner. first i would like to thank the commissioners for the opportunity to speak today. i'd also like to thank michael smith and others in the planning department for investing a significant amount of resources into getting us prepared to be here today. my primary goals in purchasing the house at 4546 19th street were first to stay close to the neighbors who have become a part of my family. i have lived in this neighborhood, specifically in a house diagonally behind the subject property, for 17 years. i have looked at this home out my rear window for the past 17 years. if we could have the slides, thank you. this is the neighborhood and the subject property is the first one after the canadian flag and you can see multiple styles of architectural nature within the neighborhood. my view from my rear window that i've been looking at for the past 17 years, if i could have the overhead projector on -- overhead projector, please -- has given me the opportunity to watch 4 houses in a row be developed behind my home. these 4 houses right along here have all been developed in the past several years and you can

powell did when he ran the f.c.c. he's now the chairman by the way of the telecommunications lobby industry got very rich because of this in two thousand and five the supreme court upheld michael palls decision to make that and the and the f.c.c. is power when he was the head of it to make that classification and in two thousand and ten when the f.c.c. issued an open internet order to protect net neutrality they neglected to define internet service providers like horizon as common carriers and that was a huge mistake. when the d.c. circuit court struck down net neutrality on tuesday it said that because the f.c.c. defines companies like verizon as information services net erat net neutrality something that's mandated for common carriers was unnecessary. the stakes couldn't be higher bottom line modern life and our modern economy to pet increasingly on the internet small businesses needed to grow every day people needed to shop for goods or just learn about the world around them all those things will be a lot harder to do it companies like horizon can discriminate against start up websites or everyday internet users to pad their profits we need to petition the f.c.c. to change

michael copps. sharon? >> caller: good morning. first of all i want to say off the top, mr. copps is my hero. i watched him sometime back when william powell, colin powells son was sitting on the board pretty much throwing the fcc, trying to do the fcc under the bus, as far as i was concerned. and i have to say that absorbing all this, me as a consumer, customer, i go to places like cbc, link tv which i contributed in order to get news that's not mandated or put out by big media, or al-jazeera. but i do this because i cannot get content that is informative in this country because it is owned by big business. and here is mr. mcdowell trying to say calmly at these companies have the right to come to the internet, which the taxpayers subsidy, although the military came up with it and now they want to privatize this. so they will control the content now. another place i go to for news of course is the internet. now when a cookie in it i have to be concerned that i won't have access to independent content either because he's saying something maybe we'll have to be either anti-confederate or blah, blah, blah. the courts will probably say it's a

chairman powell's tenure saw the convergence of services towards the bundled offerings we see today, as well as the deployment of broadband to americans. and in the four years since michael copps served as academic chairman there have been dramatic changes to the way we communicate and the technology that powers our lives. for example the title of today's hearing contains a hash tag. twit per, then with no vowels in its name, had yet to be discovered by south by southwest. neither we nor the august panel before us can predict the future and what technological changes it will bring. but by learning the lessons of the past, we can do our best to create a legal and regulatory environment that will foster innovation, and competition, encourage consumer choice, and optimum services. so again i want to thank you for -- to our witnesses for this impressive panel. we look forward to hearing your testimony. and we appreciate your public service. with that i would yield to the vice chair of the subcommittee mr. latta for any opening comments. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. and thank you very much to our panel of distinguished witnesses for testifying for us today. i appreci