joe: joining us with more is michael purves. in -- incredible stretch this cyclical commodities have put together. basically a month of real outperformance tends to be sustained or maybe the better question is, what would it take for this outperformance to be sustained? they arerger chart still massively underperforming. >> one name i have been focused on is u.s. steel which was frankly a stock that was not trading well before covid and nora were steel prices which you determine -- nor were still pricing. the way i look at this name is that the stock was left for dead. every analyst hated it. steel prices were quietly skyrocketing. --late august there were they were 450 a ton, now they are $8.20 a ton. lastook back over the 10-15 years that is good, but the stock has started climbing here. , you ask what is needed for u.s. steel, it has doubled in the past few weeks, what does it need to go higher? you can make the case that steel prices need -- don't need to go up much more, they just need to not collapse. analyst, i canro feel