one read -- joining us now is michael ratner , the president emeritus of the center for constitutionalights, which is a legal advisor to julian assange. last point,his michael, first, what your most surprised by in this piece that just came out and particularly, the u.s. pushing other countries to prosecute julian. >> what i was shocked by was the extent the u.s. and the u.k. have gone through to try and get and destroy wikileaks and julian assange and her network of supporters. it is astounding. it is been going on for years. as julian pointed out, it tells us why he is in the ecuadorian embassy and what ecuador has given him asylum. he has every reason the heavily fear what would happen to him in this country in the united states if he were to be ever taken here. for me, that is a very, very critical point, justifies every reason why ecuador gave him asylum. the document you are addressing, amy, the manhunt timeline -- which is extraordinary because it groups him among a whole bunch of people who the u.s. considers terrorists and also groups and with palestinians, which is pretty int