thank you, michael reagan.day seizing on this remark from romney. >> we can raise taxes. everything corporations earn goes to the people. >>neil: corporations are people. how is that play out on the campaign trail? [ male announcer ] imagine all of your missed opportunities in one place. the winning horse you could have picked. ♪ that "old flame" you should have called. ♪ that leap of faith you never took. but there's one opportunity that's too good to miss. the lexus golden opportunity sales event, with exceptional values on the lexus is. but only until september 6th. see your lexus dealer. >>neil: and presidential candidate romney getting flak from the left over this remark. >> we have to make sure the promises we make in social security and medicaid and medicare are promised we can keep. they are various ways to do. we can raise taxes. that is not the way. corporations are people, my friend, we can raise taxes -- of course they, everything corporations earn goes to the people. where do think it goes? people'

ronald reagan. michaelwelcome back. good to see you again. what do you make of it? we heard your father's name invoked so many times during this debt debate, i don't think anyone else was compared more. even president obama was said to have been in a meeting with eric cantor, and reportedly the president said to cantor can you imagine be ronald reagan sitting here doing this? >> yeah. welcome home, by the way. megyn: thank you. >> and all those things. yeah, welcome back. you know, i was listening to all of this, and what really hit me, megyn, was the fact that they were quoting ronald reagan, but they should be governing like ronald reagan. four days from right now, august 13th, ronald reagan signed in 1981 the largest tax break in american history and began the engine again of this incredible machine we call the united states, industry of business moving forward, creating jobs. that's what this administration should be looking at instead of quoting ronald reagan, blaming everybody under the planet. they s

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my next guest says this is not a good time for this kind of back and forthment michael reagan joins meow, chairman of the reagan group and a political consultant. michael, thanks for being back here. it's been very fascinating because, apparently, mr. cheney said heads are going to explode in washington when people get a look at this book, and in particular he has harsh words for colin powell as well as condoleezza rice of whom he is critical in dealing with north korea. you say he's violating one of your dad's cardinal rules. >> yeah, don't speak ill of another republican. you know, it's interesting to watch this because, you know, i've been reading the excerpts and what have you. it's like somebody's writing about how the sausage is being made. the state department and the white house, the state department and defense department have always been at odds. listen, they were at odds with my father when he gave the speech at the branden burg gate, they were at odds with my father when he was in reykjavik, you know, this is just the way things happen in washington, d.c. and to take it as

megyn: michael reagan is a political consultant and chairman of the reagan group.hat you think about the latest poll numbers showing perry shooting to the top. do you think the comparison to your father is more apt or he's more like george w. bush. >> i'm not surprised by the poll numbers for perry. i think there are a lot of people looking for someone else to rights out of the ashes to take that away from mitt romney. you have michele bachmann in there, great race and winning the straw poll over the weekend. i think it ends up being a three-person race. michele bachmann, rick perry and mitt romney. megyn: you say he won't win in he's george w. bush or ronald reagan. he has to be rick perry which seems more like john wayne. >> everybody is trying to say he's like george bush or ronald reagan. that ad you just ladies an introduction of rick perry and it plays in hearted of america. my wife, one of 11 children, first one born in a hospital. didn't have indoor plumbing until she was 12 years old. rick perry not until he was 6 years old. it plays in that hard-working f

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it turns out and in fact they did count those kind of people there is michael now so she's now michael reagan living with a bunch of other poor irish youth from southwest of ireland and don bentley street in south london i know he's going to mary katherine while he's there i wonder is she in the census? i go looking for her and sure enough there is kathryn living had a corner across the street from michael reagan so they must have that right there. she's a gardiner living with poor irish people from the southwest of ireland including a young woman who is identified as a hitter ticker. you don't see too many have their pictures these days. so this is the sort of a family that he came from. michael comes over to america and he has some children of one of which is john michael for the first time reagan who gets jack reagan, have recalls and jack and that's my father-son. what did i find when i start of looking at my father getting past of a family history and stuff? we think of him i fink -- i do -- as a big strapping confident kind of guy not afraid of anything. what could scare him? but when h

it turns out and in fact they did count those kind of people there is michael now so she's now michael reagan living with a bunch of other poor irish youth from southwest of ireland and don bentley street in south london i know he's going to mary katherine while he's there i wonder is she in the census? i go looking for her and sure enough there is kathryn living had a corner across the street from michael reagan so they must have that right there. she's a gardiner living with poor irish people from the southwest of ireland including a young woman who is identified as a hitter ticker. you don't see too many have their pictures these days. so this is the sort of a family that he came from. michael comes over to america and he has some children of one of which is john michael for the first time reagan who gets jack reagan, have recalls and jack and that's my father-son. what did i find when i start of looking at my father getting past of a family history and stuff? we think of him i fink -- i do -- as a big strapping confident kind of guy not afraid of anything. what could scare him? but when h

because we had michael reagan on the program yesterday that said america needs to lighten up and learn how to take a joke. >> i think the tea party is going to nominate him in the primary. that's who he is focusing on. it doesn't matter what bush administration officials are saying it matters what his core audience is thinking right now. megyn: what do you make of the president actually commenting on it? it seems like the white house wants to call attention to this comment. >> yes, because it's part of their strategy to portray obama as a sort of grown up versus the people in the republican primary. they want to cast perry as being somebody who shoots from the hip, which is one of the criticisms about him. i think this plays into their overall strat skwraoerbgs is that they want to say, look this guy is kind of -- says things that aren't really presidential and aren't really appropriate. but as ron was saying he's not right now trying to appeal to a broad election threat. if he apologized i think he would actually be in trouble with the tea party. i think they would actually get angry

opposition stiffer or is there ways you can work with the other side as you were talking about, michael, president reaganomplish much of his agenda with the democratic congress much of the time. so how do you do that effectively? it's not always done so what was it about president reagan or any leader who is -- who has those very strong ideological beliefs but is able to accomplish an agenda like president reagan was able to accomplish. >> you know what i found what's interesting about president reagan, you know, he took office in a big election in 1980. he didn't

hear every one aghast in calabasas last night this was at the ronald reagan library she was being escorted by florida senator michael rubio and me she is ok daughter and then you hear everybody continue to clap she is 90 years old she had invited the senator to >> at her husband's library of live look from our mt. tam cam rob we will be right back but first we're going to check wall street when we are few minutes away from the opening bell. [ male announcer ] get ready for the left lane. the volkswagen autobahn for all event is back. right now, get a great deal on new volkswagen models, including the jetta, awarded a top safety pick by the iihs. that's the power of german engineering. hurry in and lease the jetta s for just $179 a month. ♪ visit vwdealer.com today. ♪ the opening bell on wall street when we will keep rise on wall street after this 300 cost point gain yesterday. >> we are getting to our top story at 630 and what is going on between the confrontation of anonymous and part they are going to go head-to-head in oakland two weeks in a row we have seen a protest and part had to shut down stations at the hei

stiffer, or are there ways that you can work with the other side as you were talking about, michael, president reaganccomplish much of his agenda with the democratic congress much of the time. so how do you do that effectively? it's not always done. so what was it about president reagan or any leader who has those very strong ideological beliefs but is yet able to accomplish an agenda like president reagan was able to accomplish? >> well, one thing that i found interesting about president reagan is, you know, of course, he took office in a big election in 1980. he didn't control the house. there were many democrats in conservative districts around the country, and he made the decision early in his first term that he wouldn't campaign against some of these so-called boll weevil democrats because he made the judgment that the long-term interests of the republican party would be in the legislative success. and so he knew he could help recruit them to vote for his tax cuts, to vote for his budget. and so because he made sort of a tactical judgment there, i think that made it easier for some of these demo

michael. >> but will the gloves come off next week at the reagan library? >> i don't think so. know, i think it's his first debate. you might see mitt romney talking about how he doesn't think america needs a career politician. that will be code for rick perry. you might see jon huntsman talking about how we need, you know, less extremism in the party. he believes in science. that will be a veiled shot at perry, but i don't think you're going to -- he's going to go -- >> you're telling me you think they'll take a pawlenty in the debate? >> not a full pawlenty, a half a pawlenty. >> watch this now. rick perry leads the pack of republicans in the latest cnn opinion research poll. he nearly doubles mitt romney while palin, bachmann and giuliani lag behind. if you take out giuliani and sarah palin from the field, he still leads romney by 14 points. you've talked a lot and written about recently the palin factor. i guess it's not the cleanest survey. seems to me a giuliani voter would go for romney if giuliani is out of the race, and a palin person is probably going to go for for pe

michael steele is the former chair of the republican national committee. he's always be our republican national committee chair. and now msnbc analyst, ron reagan is a political commentator. i want to show you some thoughts from governor perry. here he is going after president obama on jobs today in south carolina. he is hitting the circuit. let's listen. >> the real issue is the president is out there and he was on a jobs tour. this is the president of the united states that has killed more jobs in america than i think any president in the history certainly in my lifetime. [ applause ] i think the only job he cares about is the one he's got. >> of course, the president came into office in the middle of a recession when the country's bleeding jobs, hemorrhaging jobs. take a look at this chart from the bureau of labor statistics tracking month to month job growth. since january of 2008 until last month. the job list slowed down. look at that chart, obama's been gaining jobs ever since halfway through 2009. the hemorrhaging of jobs was of course a carry as we walked into office. michael steele is it fair to say this president's caused our economi

reagan revolution. all the intellectual side to poverty. the a theological differences. pam, michael and his brother james one year younger, seven and six, they come rolling into the room. just playing in joking around. i jumped right around in there with them. horsing around. we get to library. we repeated. we keep kind of hanging around doing a lot of stuff together. eventually we just become brothers and no way informally that ended up cementing itself. >> a big aids difference. people wonder why their mother let you hang out with this guy. >> yes. she did. she really did. i had a lot of my hands have a problem with it. the allies is to say, you need to stop that. and white man coming around. you don't know what he doing. imam was like, they'll carry. she knew we was in good hands. >> she really did. if something was wrong we would have told there. wasn't. it was the fun. you know, he made it. even though the first time we went, looking at the book. this is boring. you know what i'm saying? we started. he told us if we don't know something, let him know. that's what he did, and he

michael. >> i would agree with that. also just reagan's confidence. he didn't have to prove himself to any particular group of people. he was who he was. he gave hundreds and hundreds of speaks when he worked for general electric of california, he knew who he was. i don't think he thought he was compromising himself when he had to deal with people who might have diametrically opposed views. that's not to say he didn't ever sort of, you know, get the conservatives upset or different factions upset at one position or another. i think he had the enduring confidence that he felt like he could deal with whoever he wanted to and not be seen as suspect for doing so. >> it's a good example of a general thing that people might not realize, even in the senate, in the house, personal relationships are really important in terms of policy because, you know, if michael and i are from different parties but we get along really well, admire each other, we're much more likely to do business across the aisle with each other and find -- really go out of our way to find a

the afternoon in the midst of the reagan revolution talking about all the intellectual sides of poverty, the cuts were doing and the ideological differences and then michael and his brother, james, one year younger than michael comes rolling into the room just pleading and joking and laughing and horsing around and eventually we go to the library and repeat it and eventually just become brothers in a way informally that ended up cementing itself as a big brother, little brother relationship. >> big age difference. people wonder why your mother let you hang out with this guy. [laughter] >> she did, she really did. a lot of my aunts had a problem with it. they always used to say you need to stop letting that white man come around. my mom was like they are okay. she knew we were in good hands with john and if something was wrong we would have told her but it wasn't. it was fun. the first time we went to the library we were looking at the book light and this is boring. but he told us if we don't know something, let him know. that's what we did and she started doing more and more with us and it was fun. we need this strange guy and -- for real, we met this str

michael steele, former chair of the republican national committee. and he'll always be our republican national committee chair. now he's also the msnbc analyst and ron reagan, political commentator. some thoughts from governor perry. getting to know this guy. i'm getting to know him. here's governor perry going after president obama on jobs today in south carolina. he is hitting the circuit. let's listen. >> the real issue is that the president's out there and he was on a jobs tour. now, i mean, this is the president of the united states that has killed more jobs in america than i think any president in the history, certainly in my lifetime. i think the only job he cares about is the one he's got. >> well, of course, the president came into office in the middle of a recession. when the country was bleeding job, hemorrhaging jobs. tracking month to month job growth. from january until last month. the big losses. joblessness slowed down. look at that chart. hold on that chart. obama is basically gaining jobs since half way through 2009. the hemorrhaging of jobs was, of course, occurring as he walked into office. michael steele is it fair to say this presiden

michael, what do you make of this? >> there's an old rap player, i'm not a player, i just crush a lot. despite the nastyness, he remains cool and centered, literally in the center. if reaganlon president, it seems obama may be the titanium president. and if clinton was the comeback kid, he's the never say die kid. though he takes tremendous hits from both the left and the right. he seems to appeal to people who thinks look at the end of the day, he had little choice to do what he did. i don't like the deal. it was forced upon him, but at the end of the day we feel he has the best ideals. >> john, are you surprised that the poll says his base is still overwhelmingly with him? >> i'm not exactly sure what you're saying there. >> i'm seeing a poll that says 83%. >> he's lost 7% support from the liberal base. >> 7% from june and up -- hold it. >> al, let my finish. >> don't distort the poll. 7% from june, up 2% from july. read the whole poll. >> he's lost support in the liberal community. the liberal part of the base, sure, that's pretty solid, but that's a small part of the base. 12% approval rating among the businessest part of the country, which is conservatives. his probl

reagan library, that would be nothing short of dramatic. >> well, i think that's right. i think that -- he has put his bet down. i agree with you and entirely agree with michael my position. >> not only he sees it but a lot of people see it. i dent want to hurt him by seconding what he said but he makes a lot of sense. i suspect that your friend willard mitt romney thinks some of same things but this is his shot. his here. he's not going to offend anybody in the gop. he is going to try it cling to that front-runner status, which i think is pretty thread bare in comparison to romney, and get the nomination. hunts hannahuntsman, he hopes something is ignited here but he hopes to 2016 or beyond that, at a point he can turn around and look at the gop and say we need it look at a different and centrist direction. >> it'll be a different gop overall by 2016 if they lose in 2012 for sure. >> no question about that. it is a big gamble for huntsman, but sarah palin is still lingering around the side lines. and karl rove is still trying to promote her candidacy. what is he up to, michael? >> i scratch my head on that one. i don't know what he is up to. >> let me let yo

michael, what's next for this style of travel? are we really going to get on this some day? >> we are going to get on it. it might take awhile, though. in 1986, ronald reaganwere going to have an airplane that could take off from dulles airport, fly to tokyo in a couple of hours. they have been working on this problem ever since. >> these guys are only $3 billion into our pocket every year but they have made some amazing inventions, some discoveries that we can't even put our hands around and we only know about 50% of the stuff they did because they won't tell us about the rest. what do you know that we don't know that these guys are doing? >> well, i know they are a great american success story, a lot of people don't know that. it's precisely because they have permission to fail. the current director of darpa says that the same nerve that's required to do something extraordinary and succeed is the same nerve that's required to follow through and fall flat on your face if you have to. i think we need more of that going on right now. >> in terms of we're in a time of budget cuts, always looking for things to cut, these guys might be in the wrong department

includes reagan and bush democrats but also includes three groups that are coming a larger and more powerful point to have electorate. arguing against the prop schism is my a.i. colleague, michael barone. he believes that we are now in what he calls an era of open field politics, where neither party will be dominant for very long. the ground rules for this debate -- each debater will present five-minute opening argument, after which a bell will ring and you will all hear the bell. then we'll have a 25-minute question and answer period, i time when i hope you will send questions on paper to the front of the room to daniel hanson sitting over here. just pass the questions up. you can also submit your questions on twitter using the hashtag a.e.i. debate and after wards we'll have five-minute closing states. let the debate begin, ruy. >> thanks, karlyn, for that excellent introduction and summary of my book. it was actually completely accurate, which is not always the case. are we going to get like not only the bell but like intermediate levels? ok. just checking. so what is the claim then that we're discussing here today? i think it's good to get some clarity on it. i'll take this