michael steele, it seems unrecognizable to me. we don't have to go back to 1860s to talk about lincoln. we can go back to ronald reagan in 1989 in his farewell address to america and what did he talk about? he talked about immigrants, that this party would be strong so long as we remained a nation of immigrants and welcomed refugees to our shores and welcomed immigrants to our shores and here we are, a party that loves -- and a president that loves to embrace ronald reagan doing the complete opposite of what reagan said they should do when he was leaving the white house and public service. >> exactly right, joe. even while reagan may have started off at times on the wrong footing, for example, launching his campaign in the heart of mississippi and calling up some of the racist past of america in that moment, the difference is he learned from that. and corrected and he recognized the greater calling of his office. and the enormous importance of the united states. and i think that that's what's missing here. donald trump doesn't care about any of that. >> yeah. it's -- it is shocking. sam stein, tell me, what happens to