michael rolince, next to him is ms. deborah ramirez. mr. rolince if you'd like to jump right in? >> sure. without notes, i started to think to myself should i put out notes and sketch out thoughts, then i thought if you do this by virtue of background, i was in the fbi for 35 years before i was out, and do consulting with the government, i guess i have allen cards and a dhs badge op my lapel, so i touch all the bases, but the reason i came really has not changed over the course of the ten years i've been doing community outreach and trying to figure out what is the right mix and the right message between law enforcement and the community, and as i read that the title is the community role in the changing world, and i think we'd agree it is a fascinating turn on the television every day and night and what's going on in the middle east can't help but fascinate everyone when you see what's driving that and it's not necessarily close to the counterterrorism world i came out of in my view as much as human rights issues and people wanting a different life for different reasons. that do

it is not michael rolince's fated no matter -- fault. you put yourself in that chair on september 12, of the 762 individuals who in this heat of passion call what you want, the immediate aftermath of 9/11 were arrested by the immigration and naturalization service, and now ins, how many of those were found not to have violated, and i will concede your point, you're 100% right, not one of them was found guilty of crime or attached to terrorism, not one. you are right on that point. how many of those 762 were wrongful arrests? none. not one. >> i think that the programs we want to touch on is the registration program. there was significant steps taken in the past month or so to delist the countries which is a welcomed step eliminating the process as a whole, but that's just the beginning, and when you're discussing and others are discussing, we need to see e e rectification and see these individuals that have already been deported, already been acceptability back home, -- sent back home. it is an issue. we are taking it very seriously. >>