trayvon martin s's shooter and michael brown in ferguson. there is a pattern of terrorism that puts a weight on the department of justice. >> has it gotten that much worse? i say that coming from someone who has seen african-americans mistreated by police. if you look at the statistics, it seems like it is really during the epidemic in the 1990s, we have had about 30 years where things haven't changed much. we are seeing terrible recent worse? >> well, the individualsuals of social media. eric garner being choked and the police walk free. and i am sure it's a factor. you also have, we have put so much focus on police. they are just gate keepers. behind the indicate is three times more unemployment than whites, 12 time more arizona and credit card debt so behind the police, we should put cameras on the backs of bankers. the bankers are the wrunz who have rond our communities. >> that's a whole other conversation. on this one, what specifically do you want to see done >> anywhere 1, those who kill people who are notices should face the penalty