first we talk with michael stabler, the author of eternal vigilance. >> we want to interview series two the vice president, it deana belasco and professor of law as well and iraq are of the liberty center for law and policy. could you give us an overview of liberty university in lynchburg? >> liberty university was founded in 1970 with 154 students. .. such a prominent person and had a prominent role in the development of liberty university. but in 2007 when he passed away and jerry farwell, jr. took the reins, the university has continued to grow and has expanded with additional schools and additional programs. buildings are being built, old buildings torn down. so the school has, instead of remain agent status quo, has exponentially increased. so they have a lot of room to grow. >> host: what are your concerns as a dean and a vice president of a university about online college? >> guest: well, certainly the concern of anyone with regards to online is to make sure that it is as rigorous as the residential program. one of the uincome -- unique things about online is you can get experien