still with us juanita tolliver and michael steele. michael, i know you've been waiting for this a sampling from the freedom caucus press conference. let's listen to this. >> right now as long as there are members of the republican conference, they are entitled to come to every meeting we have, here every strategy, and you know what, they chose to leave. >> even our incompetent attending position could test these members positive for trump derangement syndrome. they are a cancer to our party and our caucus, and they must be expelled from our conference. >> a cancer to our party, michael, do you see the leadership giving cheney and king zinger the boot, what's gonna happen? >> the cancer to our party was standing behind the microphones, i'm sorry. i don't know with the hell these people are talking about. just, go away, stop it. >> the reality of it is, the only member of this particular conference that has stood up, the two members that have stood up and made it very clear that this is about our country and this is about our democracy,

one michael steele and one marc mackinnon remain with us.a lot of folks especially in this part of the world, chris christy, his state decimated by hurricane sandy made the fatal political era of hugging a democratic president by way of thanking him for visiting and surveying the damage and got dragged for it like it was something awful. there was a ton of social media traffic today, so much for dissented's 2024. can he only run if he gets permission from mr. trump? >> yeah, tell me how the equation changes unless he's able to change that equation. some of the polling, some of the preference pulling if you will among active republicans especially trump republicans shows ron desantis has carved out a nice niche for himself and is making the most of it. he showing this bravado and leadership of his state, he's very popular in his state. i think that there's a dynamic here since trump is a resident of the governor's state, which is just rich. it's just so rich to watch him sitting there with joe biden to his left and then thank you mister presi

as michael steele observed. careful, governor, i know someone who wouldn't like this. #grat constitute michael, it reminded him by chris christie, his state decimated by hurricane sanity, hugged the president, and he got dragged for it. there was a ton of social media traffic today. so much for desantis 2024. but can he run if he gets permission from trump? >> tell me how the equation changes, unless he is able to change the equation. some of the polling, the preference polling among active republicans, trump republicans, shows desantis has carves out a nice niche for himself, and making the most of it. he is sew showing bravado, and leadership in his state. there is a dynamic here. since trump is a resident of the governor's state, it's so rich to watch him sitting there with joe biden to his left, and thank you, mr. president. there is no bureaucracy, you are responding to our needs, and people have an image of the president throwing paper towels and toilet people to those. so there is a contrast, and kudos, have fun with it. guess what. when the shoe drops, it's prob

i want to bring in michael steele, and contributing columnist to "the washington post" and msnbc analyst, donna edwards. michael, let me start with you. talk about this point of adam kinzinger. how do you think this is going to affect how the majority of republicans see this january 6th select committee, or will it? >> it will. first off, congratulations to adam. i appreciate his stepping up. i called for this appointment the day mccarthy said he was pulling all of the players off the field, so i'm glad to see this has pursued the court it should, with the outcome we need. number two, i think republicans are going to be of a split mind. the hard-core trumper types, this is a write-off, this is all politics, the big lie is the cause celeb. for the rest of us, wet to know exactly what happened. to charlie's point about being called will they actually come in called? to make sure they do testify. republicans are beating their breasts right now in texas, because, you know, when those democrats come bulk, we're going to arrest them, force them to pass this regressive voting bill. so i wonder

what do you think about that, michael steele?my man, gene robinson, i love that turn of phrase, oh, my gosh, that's so sweet. absolutely, absolutely. yeah, he's right. where do we go with this, tell me where the lines and the points connect. having the idea that you've got something that you're crafting is one thing. getting it out in front of the public and then selling it and getting people behind it on infrastructure is something very different. and on voting rights, it is absolutely critical that this meets the baseline fundamental test, not just for advocates and activists out there who have been pushing the administration and states around the country to get this right, but the american people have got to trust it. they have to buy into it. and it's got to affirm that this most precious right in our constitution is safeguarded. and i don't know how you get there in this environment. republicans are hellbent, as you know, in keeping their hands off of this, they don't want to touch this issue and the way they avoid touching

michael steel is here.o joining us the "new york times" domestic correspondent and former democratic senator claire mccaskill. nick, i know you've been reporting out this move by texas legislators. let me play somebody who's been on this program a couple of times now. this is state representative crockett on the way to the airport. >> so you know the goal is to apply more pressure this time. we move the needle last time and it wasn't the entire delegation. we should have the majority of the delegation there in d.c. with us. so the goal is going to be to say, listen, we have done everything that we could. we're having to leave our families now for almost the entire 30 days to avoid dealing with this. we're having to live outside of the state just to avoid law enforcement being able to get us. so we need y'all to do your part. >> so, nick, tell me the latest on this story. do they have enough democrats who have fled the state and have they all committed to staying outside of the state until the session ends?

and one michael steele, former lieutenant governor of the great state of maryland and host of the michaelteele podcast. so juanita, it is getting tough out there. my evidence, exhibit one. join me and listening to how our friend nicole wallace started her broadcast today. >> tragically and perhaps ironically, how he clinch the democratic nomination, president biden will now have the distinction of serving as president during one of the greatest rollbacks to access to the polls in recent american history. >> so, juanita, tough but fair. it gets worse, here is jeff green field talking about the democrats. they have a majority coalition, they control the white house, but the democrats are trapped in delusions of rewriting the rules why the gop figures out ways to bend them. and not to be outdone, steve schmidt today says that chuck schumer is not the leader. that these times demand. so how are democrats gonna deal with all of these pressures, juanita? >> look brian, democrats have to get it together. the clock is ticking for them to do that. and i definitely appreciate all this commentary, e

peter baker, michael steele, victoria, thank you all. >>> back to the historic protests in cuba.rnalist ed agustin joins me now. can you describe what you're seeing now and hearing from people there? the protests yesterday were simply astounding, amazing. >> reporter: yeah, yesterday i was out in downtown havana the whole day and i witnessed thousands of protesters in the central part of havana who were out demanding change, demanding that the communist government stand down. and their main gripe, their main grievance was these are people who have, especially since the pandemic, have become used to having to live on small food rations, are used to empty shelves at the supermarkets and pharmacies, and increasingly used to power cuts, the water going out. so it was really the underlying complaints of people, was that they're fed up with waiting in line and economic privation. the protests started in the morning and they arrived in havana yesterday early afternoon, and these protests, some were peaceful and others were violent. i saw confrontations between protesters picking up pavi

also, michael steele is the former chairman of the republican national committee and so mr. wrong? he doesn't have any policies. >> no, there's no policies. i was laughing when he says that, you know, he wants to -- he has unfinished business and he wants to fix the problems. like, dude, you're the reason we have the problems! what are you talking about? you want to fix what you broke? no you don't get to do draft. i'm sorry. lindsey graham is right about one thing. donald trump is setting himself on the path to become the nominee of the party because everyone, like lindsey graham, is doing the favor complete. you know, this is his party, you know, and if he wants to be the nominee and all the others stand down. so fix it. no, baby, you broke it. we the people, we going to fix it and by keeping you out of the white house. that's how. >> keeping him out of the white house but michael steele, do you really think donald trump is going to run again for a job he didn't like to begin with? >> no. >> okay. all right. he doesn't want to work. the job requires work. he realized he co

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the inside story of how trump lost and my friend, former rnc chairman, michael steele. k you so much for being here. michael, i want to start with you. your book was full of revolutions. i have to say this stuff was not necessarily surprising we saw crazy play out every day. it was interesting the see it all play out here. i'm curious, what surprised you most given the crazy that we saw? what surprised you most? >> it's a really good question. the story of crazy and cay yus is one well known. you don't have to be a white house reporter to know that. i knew it all too well. i wrote a thousands stories for the wall street journal over the four years of this trump administration but what struck me a lot when i was reporting this book was not the chaos but the senior people around trump thought he was dangerous for the country. that he become violent and unhinged in his desperation to hold onto office. he wanted to shoot americans. he told them to shoot americans who were protesting peacefully civil rights abuses, civil justice abuses. you mention pompeo, pompeo left others

joining me now is michael steele, republican strategist and partner at hamilton place strategies and. let's jump right in with the continuing fallout of the capitol insurrection. this week conservatives have been posting a the name of the officer they claimed shot insurrectionist ashli babbitt. that fury has been gleefully stoked by trump. aisha, what are these people trying to accomplish by this? >> you know, rev, it seems to me that this is equivalent of attempting to put a hit on somebody by putting out names in this way. trying to incite a mob to go after that person, be it digitally or in person, it just seems to me nothing good is to come from this and the real intention is to try to do harm to whoever's name it is they're throwing out there. there has got to be reprimand, way to hold people accountable to potentially putting someone in harm's way. >> the house select committee to investigate the events of january 6th, their first hearings are supposed to take place by the end of the month. michael, do you expect the minority leader leader to name members? and how do you expect

for more, we are happy to welcome back tonight, juanita tolliver, and michael steele former chairmanutenant governor of the state of maryland. so, juanita, it's getting tough out there. my evidence exhibit one, join me in listen willing to how our friend nicole wallace started the broadcast today. >> tragically and perhaps ironically based on how he clinched the democratic nomination, president joe biden will now forever hold the distinction of having served as president during one of the greatest roll-backs of access to the polls in recent american history. >> so, juanita, tough but fair, it get abouts worse. here is jeff greenfield talking about the democrats. they have a majority coalition, they control the white house but the democrats are trapped in delusions of re-writing the rules while the gop figures out ways to bend them. and not to be outdone, steve schmidt today said chuck schumer is not the leader these times demand. how are democrats going to deal with the pressures, juanita? >> democrats have to get it together and the clock is ticking for them to do that. and i defini

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i'm michael steele, in for nicolle wallace.e select committee chairman bennie thompson looking forward to the next step in the investigation as questions swirl over the remaining five spots on the committee. one still open after minority leader kevin mccarthy yanked all of his picks yesterday. sources tell nbc news congressman adam kinzinger is possibly under consideration to fill one of those spots. although thompson said he is the kind of person they want to have on the committee, no official announcement has been made. also reportedly under consideration, former gop congressman denver riggelman who would serve as an advisor to the committee and is currently meeting with the speaker in her office. he was supposed to be onset with us to talk but his meeting is apparently running long. they both alike have been outspoken about their party's role in propagating the big lie that lies at the heart of this capitol insurrection. >>> that's where we begin this hour. joining us former congresswoman donna edwards, "washington post" con

we begin with michael steele, the former rnc chair and friend of "the beat," good to see you sir. >> good to see you, bro, welcome back to the neighborhood. >> good to be in the neighborhood. >> i am ready. >> i said mount rushmore level because it is a big deal. and so while the republicans may be objectively over stepping with the word socialism, it would not be wrong to call this a government or a large package. >> it even goes to one sense beyond the $1.9 trillion for tax cuts. you have this competing narrative now that the biden team is establishing that a firm across the country that they're going to be about middle america and the men and women who are raising families and putting kids through schools, they're going to provide the roads to get those kids to those classrooms and provide other kinds of social infrastructure, daycare, child care or etcetera that those families need. it is setting up an interesting dynamic. i do not think that it will be as much as i am concerned about the level of spending and i am. i do not think that it is going to be enough, ari, well, this is

let's get right to michael steele and dania perry, good evening to both of you. >> hey, ari. >> are you feeling fresh and clean, michael? >> i feel fresh, baby. i feel fresh. it is the best defense i got to offer is "i am fresh." >> look, michael, this is what i will ask you. i have a little fun with it. in politics and rhetoric you can say whatever you want and run your bio campaign ads and whatever you want and your supporters will give you the benefit of the doubt on certain things. is it going to work the same way in court to say this is all about donald trump's charity and his being nice to employees and that was all it was about? >> no, no, the law does not give a damn about your charitable inclinations. what it cares about particularly in the tax pace if the good councils with us knows whether or not you are in violation of the laws. as you rightly laid out, i may have the best intent in the world, here is $100,000 to educate your child. guess what? that's awfully nice of you but ma'am, that's income to you and sir, you have to account for that on your books for the company. and

rnc chair michael steele. how are you doing, sir? >> hey, man, i'm good. i'm good.ll start with the easiest one. what does it mean when the speaker just calls him a moron? >> well, okay, so she said the loud part -- the quiet part outloud. a lot of what people are thinking when they hear and see kevin and others in the republican leadership take the position they have on masks and the vaccine. look, this is -- what is so galling about this, everyone knows this is all politics. this is pure politics. this is -- this is beyond all the social conscience and this sort of fake freedom charge that people are concerned about. they weren't concerned about that when they were told to wear their seat belts. they weren't concerned about that when they were told to stop smoking or they were told to take care of this or that other health crisis at the moment. you know, no one made that kind of equation. but this speaks to, and i think this is what the speaker is putting her finger on, the difference in what leadership makes in a crisis like this. the difference it can country. i

rnc chair michael steele and former sdny prosecutor danya perry. good evening both of you. >> a, sorry. >> are you feeling clean michael? are you feeling fresh and clean? >> i feel fresh, baby. i feel fresh. [laughs] it's the best defense i have to offer is i'm fresh. [laughs] >> i mean, look, michael this is my last q, i'm having a little fun with it. obviously africa are the serious part seriously. by politics and in rhetoric, you can see whatever you want, you can run your campaign about whatever you want. your supporters will probably give you the benefit of the doubt on certain things. is it going to work the same way in court though to say this was all about donald trump's charity and his being nice employees and that's all it was about? >> no. no. then law doesn't give a damn about his charitable inclinations. [laughs] when it cares about, particularly in the tax base, as the good counsel who is with us knows, is whether or not you are in violation of the law. so as you rightly lays out, i may have the best intense in the world. here's $100,0

i'm michael steele in for nicolle wallace.ing the alarm on the attack on our nation's democracy from the growing number of measures that have limited access to the ballot box being enacted across the country. johnson was arrested yesterday after taking part in a rally and standing outside the senate hart building with protesters, demanding the senate take action to protect the right to vote. johnson tweeted a video of him and others chanting while their hands were bound with zip ties writing, i was arrested today protesting on senate inaction on voting rights legislation in the spirit of my dear friend and mentor the late congressman john lewis, i was getting in good trouble. johnson was the second house democrat detained in just a week. last thursday congresswoman joyce beatty of ohio was also arrested but the u.s. capitol police for demonstrating for voting rights. these protests come as the assault on the right to vote in this country only mounts. according to new numbers from the brennan center for justice, 30 restrictive

. >> yeah, and michael steele is in the bulwark writing about this and how not necessarily letting what the progressive activists want to think but to get an action item to something that with a allow for manchin to file comfortable or to find work arounds. when are more narrow ways to protect writes. maybe looking at the electoral vote count act and get republicans onboard and pushing this where you would have people like mitt romney say if not for all these voting rights reforms but i can make sure the house of representatives doesn't try to overturn an election anytime in the future and we can make the rules around the counting more specific. this is a much bigger challenge than that. it might be time as we get closer and closer to the midterms to look at what are some more narrow ways to protect individual group voting rights and the broader democratic project, frankly. >> eugene, i have been covering this issue since the first stories emerged about the georgia law signed into law. major league baseball moved the all-star game to colorado, and 389 laws, you talk to democrats private

as michael cohen said when you feel the cold steel of the handcuffs and you're being charged, it's aing investigated. >> that is absolutely right. reality crystalizes once you've been charged it becomes very, very real. it's not just talking in the hypothetical where your attorneys are telling you, hey, they're investigating you. doesn't mean you've been charged yet. you've been charged. you've been presented in court. you had to plead not guilty. this is very real. and as you pointed out, they are significant charges here carrying significant potential jail time of 15 years. for a white collar crime, that's no joke. i think what happens next is that now the case goes into pretrial. the next conference will be in september. and his attorneys, weisselberg's attorneys, will try to find a way to dismiss the indictment. >> there's another thing, that is the trump organization is a going concern. as troubled as it is and as much as it has ventures that doesn't make money, it's a growing concern. donald trump has loans out there that he personally guaranteed. some of those loans are coming

michael avenatti. so i'm very excited about that. steel and i demand a commission.d a set of hearings immediately to look into this, perhaps an impeachment proceeding. i'm not going to call it an insurrection, but i'm going to think about it tonight. maybe tomorrow i will. i might come up next, crime wave chaos. sands running for their lives after gun fire your upset side a stadium. limu emu... and doug. so then i said to him, you oughta customize your car insurance with liberty mutual, so you only pay for what you need. oh um, doug can we talk about something other than work, it's the weekend. yeah, yeah. [ squawk ] hot dog or... chicken? [ squawk ] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ up here, success depends on the choices you make. but i know i've got this. and when it comes to controlling his type 2 diabetes, my dad's got this, too. with the right choices, you have it in you to control your a1c and once-weekly trulicity may help. most people taking trulicity reached an a1c under 7%. and it starts lowering blood sugar from the firs